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Greg and Darren discuss their plans to skip the 2024 National Sports Card Show in Rosemont, Chicago, citing infrastructure problems, travel inconvenience, and logistical challenges. Greg is considering skipping Strongsville instead due to the expense and stress of flying from California with connections, while Darren may skip Nationals to attend shows closer to his family commitments.

Summary

Greg and Darren, hosts of the "Off Topic" podcast at Sports Card Clubhouse, explain why they're reconsidering their attendance at major national card shows. Darren reveals he won't attend the National Show in Rosemont next year because of persistent infrastructure problems—terrible traffic, weather issues, limited hotel access for non-VIPs, and poor dining availability. He notes that the city reduced traffic lanes to 1-2 lanes right before the convention center entrance, creating chaos with over 10,000 cars trying to enter. Darren explains he made a commitment to his wife to attend only two card shows per year, with one reserved for trips with his father and brother, so he won't attend Nationals solo. Instead, he plans to attend Strongsville in Ohio as a solo trip.

Greg then expresses serious doubts about attending Strongsville, revealing the significant hardship involved in traveling from California. He must take two flights with connections because there are no direct flights to Cleveland, spending considerable money and time in airports. If either flight is delayed or canceled, his entire trip is compromised. Upon arrival, he must drive 30 minutes from Cleveland airport to the venue, which is a high school gymnasium ("field house"), not a conference center. Greg compares this unfavorably to the experience of his East Coast and Midwest friends who can drive 1-6 hours or fly direct. He emphasizes the exhaustion of waking at 4 AM and arriving home at 8 PM, then teaching high school students the next day. Additionally, April marks the beginning of a grueling 10-week period at school with zero days off from spring break through year's end, making this trip particularly poorly timed. Greg estimates only a 40% chance he'll attend Strongsville.

Darren adds that the valet parking service in Strongsville was substandard and rude. He expresses envy for friends in Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York who can easily access Strongsville and Philadelphia shows. Greg notes that flights to Newark or Philadelphia are more frequent with United Airlines, making those shows more feasible alternatives. Both acknowledge that family obligations are more important than attending card shows—Darren has his daughter and stepson graduating from high school in May, while Greg has his daughter Molly graduating from college around May 1st, creating scheduling conflicts. They conclude by joking that they can't guarantee attending either show, with Greg saying "if you're planning on going to Strongsville because you want to spend time with me, there are no guarantees."

Key Insights

  • Darren decided to skip the National Show in Rosemont because the city reduced highway lanes to 1-2 lanes right before the convention entrance, causing over 10,000 cars daily to back up, making the infrastructure headache worse than attending the show itself.
  • Greg committed to his wife to attend only two card shows per year, with one reserved for trips with his father and brother, which constrains his ability to attend shows independently.
  • Greg identified that attending Strongsville requires two flights from California with connections totaling 7 hours of flight time plus 3 hours at airports, creating risk that any flight delay or cancellation ruins the entire trip and wastes hundreds of dollars.
  • Greg expressed that April timing for Strongsville is particularly problematic because it starts a 10-week period with zero days off from spring break through end of school year, forcing him to begin this exhausting period already sleep-deprived from travel.
  • Greg estimates only a 40% probability he will attend Strongsville and expects he would regret not attending, but acknowledges family obligations like his daughter's college graduation in May take priority over card shows.

Topics

National Sports Card Shows logistics and attendance decisionsInfrastructure and travel challengesRosemont, Chicago vs. Strongsville, Ohio venue comparisonWork-life balance and family obligationsGeographic disadvantages for West Coast attendees

Transcript

[0:24] Dude, I mean the intro, it's so cool, isn't it? So wonderful. Okay, this is Greg and Darren off- topic at Sports Card Clubhouse. Thank you, guys, for inviting us to your place . It's nice to be contributors and share our little off-topic things that we've been doing for three years, three years plus three and a half years. episodes. Yes, yes. So, we've [0:54] been doing this for a while now, and we love it, and I think what we're going to talk about today might catch some people off guard. I don't know if anyone has heard of this or heard of it, but where are we now? So there are all these card shows, right?…

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