Is Consolidating The Way To Go?
Mike and Greg discuss consolidating sports card collections to acquire major cards, using David Chase's recent acquisition of a Satchel Paige Leaf card as a case study. They explore the current market boom (reaching nearly $1 billion in monthly sales), debate whether specific high-profile rookie cards are overvalued, and reflect on their personal collecting philosophies regarding what cards they would trade their collections for.
Summary
The episode opens with casual conversation about fall weather and October activities before transitioning to a correction regarding PSA's grading standards. The hosts clarify that while hologram centering on Ken Griffey Jr.'s 1989 Upper Deck card isn't separately graded, hologram condition can still affect overall card ratings if it impacts the card's appearance. A commenter named Stick contacted PSA directly to verify this claim, demonstrating the value of community engagement.
The main topic focuses on collection consolidation, inspired by David Chase's recent acquisition of a rare Satchel Paige Leaf card (PSA 3.5) for which he sold 51 cards from his collection. The hosts discuss different consolidation strategies, including getting estimates from dealers like Chris Sewell (Sewell Sports Cards) or working with agents like Greg Morris, and recommend using specialized shipping services like Grail Card for high-value items rather than standard mail.
Mike shares his personal collecting philosophy: he has specific cards he'd pursue (1952 Topps cards, T206 vintage cards) but is hesitant to trade irreplaceable cards with unique characteristics, like his Walter Johnson T206 with specific hand positioning. Greg indicates he would consolidate for his "grail cards": a Goudey Babe Ruth, a Leaf Jackie Robinson, or a 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson, though he notes prices have doubled in the past two years ($10,000 to $20,000 range).
The conversation shifts to market data, revealing significant growth in the hobby. Card Ladder data shows monthly trading volume reached $948 million in September (up from $912 million in August), approaching a $1 billion monthly threshold—a massive increase from $200 million in November 2022. This represents a fivefold growth in two years. The hosts discuss whether this growth is sustainable.
Mike discusses his recent card sales, including selling cards that experienced explosive growth: an Optimus Prime Transformer card bought for $183 in June and sold for $2,000 (11x return in 3 months), a Snoopy card bought for ~$200 and sold for $950-$1,000, and a Barry Bonds refractor sold for $3,750 (purchased for $1,266). He notes he sold these not because he believed in their long-term potential but because the prices had become unreasonable.
The hosts debate recent high-profile rookie card sales, specifically the Cooper Flagg card that sold for $8 million (highest for a single basketball card) and the Prospero Crow-Armstrong card that sold for $1.1 million. Greg argues that Cooper Flagg's ceiling is Tim Duncan—an excellent but not spectacular player—and that buying these cards at inflated prices is a poor investment. He notes that Flagg lacks the charisma and mentality of legendary players like Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, whose cards justify higher valuations. The hosts disagree on whether media criticism of the Flagg sale influenced the lower Armstrong price.
The episode concludes with gratitude to long-time viewers and encouragement to explore other content on the Sports Cards Clubhouse channel, reflecting on how the show has developed over its second year.
Key Insights
- PSA does not separately measure hologram centering as a grading factor, but hologram condition can still negatively impact a card's overall rating if it affects the card's appearance and appeal
- David Chase consolidated 51 cards from his collection to acquire his dream Satchel Paige Leaf card, and dealers like Chris Sewell can provide fair estimates to help collectors plan major acquisitions
- Sports card trading volume reached $948 million in September 2024, representing a fivefold increase from $200 million in November 2022, suggesting the hobby is experiencing unsustainable explosive growth
- Mike sold several cards (Optimus Prime for 11x return, Snoopy for 5x return) not because he believed in their long-term value but because prices had become unreasonably inflated relative to his confidence in the cards' actual potential
- Greg argues Cooper Flagg's card at $8 million is overvalued because Flagg's ceiling is comparable to Tim Duncan—an excellent but not transcendent player—and lacks the charisma and mentality of Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan that justifies elite card pricing
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Transcript
[0:01] In our vast country, there are card collectors all over the land who are passionate about this hobby. This is Mike from Junk Wax Hero and Greg from Midlife Cards. And although they are separated by distance, this is where they come together to talk about cards. Hello, friend. I see you're already wearing your Celtics sweatshirt. Are you ready for basketball season? You know, I got up this morning, it was 37 degrees, and yeah, this... this is the best month of the [0:32] year, Greg. October. The best weather. Time for a skinny. My wife and I love to go for walks, and this is just the best weather. Um, Celtics basketball is back. NBA basketball returns…
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