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Seedy19: A 35x Return From Biotech Investing

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C.D., a biotech investor who achieved a 35x return in 2025 through a combination of common stock, covered calls, and put-writing strategies, discusses how he entered the biotech space despite lacking a science background, explains his process for identifying undervalued opportunities, and identifies emerging themes like neurological diseases, cardiovascular space, and rare disease gene therapy as the most promising areas in biotech.

Summary

C.D. entered biotech investing by chance, working at a pharmaceutical company during his Big Four consulting rotation that was extended due to COVID. Without a science background, he spent considerable time learning from others and reading to understand the space. He emphasizes that biotech investing is fundamentally different from other sectors because binary clinical trial outcomes create massive short-term valuation swings based on real drug assets and fundamentals, not speculative momentum.

His 35x return came from a diversified strategy combining common stock positions, covered calls on positions he believed had run too far, and put-writing where he felt comfortable with downside floors. He avoided call options due to timing risk and preferred to write puts because the worst case—assignment at desired entry levels—was acceptable. He notes that as a generalist investor, AI tools have democratized biotech analysis, allowing anyone to understand complex trial data and molecular structures without a scientific background.

C.D. illustrates his approach through specific case studies. With Urogen, he identified a stock trading at $3.50 that the market had mispriced following a split ODAC vote, despite historical precedent showing such votes typically lead to FDA approval. He structured a collar trade (long equity, short calls, long puts) that returned 3x. With Abivax, he identified a company with one week of cash runway but sitting on a validated asset from Phase 2 data, where the downside was capped at 95-100% loss while upside was unlimited—a bet that ultimately returned 2000%. He emphasizes that finding these asymmetrical risk-reward opportunities is the core of his strategy.

He explains that biotech's unique characteristic is having a built-in exit through M&A, unlike tech sectors where exit timing is ambiguous. Most small-to-mid-cap biotech companies will eventually be acquired by large pharmaceuticals at predictable multiples (2-3x sales), creating a natural selling point. This contrasts with cases like RevMed at $40 billion with zero revenue, which he argues is completely justified given the blockbuster potential of their Pan-RAS inhibitor.

On finding ideas, C.D. recommends starting by reviewing holdings of top specialist biotech hedge funds through their 13F filings, then analyzing the corporate decks using AI tools for interpretation. He doesn't rely on screeners but rather maintains a watchlist of 40-50 companies while only actively investing in 5-10, allowing him to recognize opportunities when complementary assets get acquired.

Regarding current opportunities, he identifies several hot spaces: neurological diseases (MDD, Alzheimer's), cardiovascular space, immunology (citing how atopic dermatitis evolved from a perceived niche to a $20+ billion market), rare diseases with gene therapy, and oncology. He argues AI's impact on biotech isn't a standalone trade but rather a tailwind that accelerates timelines—trials still require fixed durations and patient cohorts, so AI speeds the path to market rather than being the return itself.

On what's overhyped, C.D. notes that crowded shorts from the bear market had to cover during the 2024-2025 bull run, leaving many poor-quality assets with unjustified valuations. He personally stopped shorting after being badly wrong on Capricorn (6 to 30), recognizing headline risk in biotech makes shorting dangerous. However, he acknowledges short-selling remains important to the ecosystem to expose fraudulent companies, particularly referencing overhyped Alzheimer's companies that raised billions on unfounded promises.

About this episode

<p>I hope you guys enjoy my podcast with @Seedy19 (from X). Seedy is a full-time biotech investor. He generated a 35x on his entire portfolio last year. </p><p>Not just one stock, his entire portfolio. </p><p>The crazy part? He did it buying mostly common stocks. </p><p>Biotech stocks, of course. But common stocks nonetheless!</p><p>We spend an hour diving into Seedy's process, how he identifies new ideas, researches positions, weighs probabilities, and separates the real companies from the shams. </p><p>I loved recording this episode. </p><p><strong>PLEASE NOTE NONE OF THIS IS INVESTMENT ADVICE. IT IS PURELY EDUCATIONAL/ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY. DO NOT TRADE ANY OF THESE SECURITIES WITHOUT CONSULTING A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL. YOU ARE AN IDIOT FOR TRYING TO TRADE BIOTECH. </strong></p>

Key Insights

  • C.D. argues that biotech's binary trial outcomes create legitimate 500-2000% moves based on fundamental drug efficacy rather than speculation, unlike other sectors where large moves often signal bubbles.
  • He claims that writing puts rather than calls provided his best risk-reward because assignment at his desired entry price was an acceptable worst-case outcome, whereas calls carried timing risk with capped upside.
  • C.D. contends that most small-to-mid-cap biotech companies have a built-in exit through M&A at predictable multiples (2-3x sales), creating a natural selling point absent in other sectors like tech.
  • He argues that RevMed's $40 billion valuation with zero revenue is justified given blockbuster Pan-RAS inhibitor potential, demonstrating that peak sales projections and pharma acquisition patterns support seemingly extreme valuations.
  • C.D. claims that AI hasn't created a standalone biotech trade but rather accelerates trial timelines and market entry, as fundamental trial duration requirements cannot be shortened regardless of AI improvements.
  • He argues that crowded short positions from the 2024-2025 bull run recovery have left many poor-quality biotech assets with unjustified valuations that will eventually be exposed.
  • C.D. contends that maintaining a 40-50 company watchlist while investing in only 5-10 positions provides unexpected opportunities when complementary assets get acquired, as he's already familiar with related stories.
  • He claims that generalist investors using AI interpretation tools can now compete effectively in biotech despite lacking scientific backgrounds, democratizing what was previously expert-only territory.

Topics

Biotech investing strategy and returnsPortfolio construction using equity, covered calls, and putsIdentifying undervalued biotech opportunitiesCase studies: Urogen, Abivax, RevMed, ARAS, VeraM&A as exit strategy in biotechUsing AI tools for biotech analysis without scientific backgroundHot spaces in biotech: neuro, cardiovascular, immunology, rare disease, oncologyShort selling risks and overhyped assets in biotechHedge fund research methodologyValuation approaches for pre-revenue biotech companies

Transcript

In my quest to understand biotech as someone that is a generalist that really, you know, I'm just getting into the space. I tried to talk to as many people as I can. And C.D., who I'm talking to today, you actually were requested as someone that I should speak to from another biotech investor that I was in contact with. I asked him, hey, who are the best people on Twitter to follow? And your name came up. So that's enough of a credit worthiness for me to talk to you today about all things biotech. And I think the best part to start, because this is the first time I'm kind of meeting you, so I think a…

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