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He Found the Land Deal Everyone Else Missed

The Real Estate Investing Podcast47m 55s

Andrew Frezza, a one-year-old land investor and former CrossFit gym owner, shares his journey pivoting to real estate after COVID disrupted his fitness business. He discusses his early success with a $140K profit subdivide deal, his evolution from direct mail marketing to focusing on realtor relationships and on-market deals, and his upcoming major project—a 156-acre North Carolina property he expects to generate $300-400K profit from.

Summary

Andrew Frezza transitioned from owning a CrossFit gym for 11 years (2012-2023) to land investing, influenced by his father's 40-year real estate career spanning mobile home parks and commercial real estate. After COVID impacted the gym industry and with three young children, Andrew worked with his dad on commercial real estate in Asheville, North Carolina, including a major 1031 exchange from mobile home parks to 10 commercial properties.

One year ago, Andrew launched his land investing business with direct mail marketing (4,000 mailers monthly) and quickly found early success. His first major deal was a 10-acre cleared farmland property purchased for $250K, subdivided into five 2-acre parcels, and sold for approximately $560K total—yielding $140K profit after a 50/50 split with funder Sean Cohn and expenses. This early win provided significant proof of concept and confidence in the subdivide niche.

Initially, Andrew scaled aggressively to 10,000 monthly mailers while adding texting and hiring a VA, but his marketing spend became bloated. Several deals fell through due to poor soil reports or title issues, costing him thousands in wasted due diligence. He realized he was spending money on properties without fully analyzing comps and profit margins upfront. After consulting with coach Andrew Short, he pivoted to focus almost exclusively on on-market properties and realtor relationships, dramatically reducing his $50K+ monthly marketing budget to nearly zero.

His recent major deal exemplifies this new strategy: a 156-acre distressed property in Troy, North Carolina with river frontage, initially listed at $720K. Andrew discovered a 50,000 square-foot dilapidated rug mill on the property with a $250K demolition quote, but negotiated the purchase price down to $650K after finding a $80K demolition solution. Based on comps of similar properties selling for $10-15K per acre and his conservative base case of $8,500/acre, he projects 10+ parcels generating $300-400K total profit. He's funding this deal with his father at 12-14% interest, closing today.

After 12 months, Andrew has completed five deals full cycle totaling just over $200K gross profit (excluding marketing and operating expenses), putting him near break-even when all costs are factored in. His pipeline includes additional subdivide deals and the major North Carolina property, with projected additional profits of $100-200K from other properties currently listed or coming to market.

Andrew attributes his confidence to probability-based thinking from poker and stock market experience, rigorous comping (often 3-5 times per area), and understanding risk-reward ratios. He heavily utilizes Claude AI to scrub daily Southeast listings, price properties, and create investor presentations. His wife assists 1-2 hours daily with disposition while Andrew focuses on acquisition. He's also exploring Facebook groups and targeted buyer lists for disposition strategies.

Looking forward, Andrew plans to pause direct mail indefinitely and dedicate 80% of effort to on-market properties and realtor relationships, believing this approach aligns with his skillset and available funding resources. He aims for seven figures in net profit within 12-24 months. For newcomers, Andrew advises against casual dabbling, recommending those with existing income and time constraints start with on-market minor subdivides and realtor relationships to build comping skills and experience with minimal upfront costs.

About this episode

<p>🌎 Try Land Portal For FREE: https://landportal.com/subscriptions?a_aid=LandInvestingOnline&amp;a_bid=f16f4aeb 🔥 Apply for 1 on 1 Land Flipping Coaching: https://landinvestingonline.com/pages/consultation 📚 Get Daniel Apke’s New Book (One Lot At A Time): https://landinvestingonline.com/pages/one-lot-at-a-time================================In this episode, Ron sits down with Andrew Frezza to discuss how he left the fitness industry to build a successful land investing business in just one year. Andrew shares insights on how he leverages on-market deals, builds realtor relationships, uses AI, and creates six-figure land opportunities while balancing family life.If you're looking to grow a land investing business with smarter strategies, creative deal sourcing, and long-term wealth in real estate, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won't want to miss!🌐 Connect with Andrew Frezza: Email: [email protected] Website: https://securelanddeals.com/ ================================TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro00:29 Andrew's background09:40 First $140K subdivide14:49 Switching strategies17:19 The 156-acre deal22:15 Confident comping30:50 First-year results34:28 Biggest mistakes36:29 On-market strategy40:08 Using AI44:27 Advice for beginners</p>

Key Insights

  • Andrew's early $140K profit subdivide deal made him aware of how rare high-quality deals are and prompted him to specialize in subdividing rather than general flipping.
  • Andrew spent thousands on wasted due diligence (soil reports, title work) on deals that fell through, leading him to realize he needed to validate comps thoroughly before spending any money on reports.
  • Andrew shifted from aggressive marketing ($50K+ monthly spend on direct mail, texting, and VA) to near-zero marketing spend by focusing on on-market deals with realtor relationships.
  • Andrew uses probability-based thinking from his poker and stock market background to evaluate deals as risk-reward bets, accepting that he'll lose money on some deals if the expected value is positive across a portfolio.
  • Andrew's father's 40-year entrepreneurial influence made Andrew unable to commit to traditional employment, pushing him to create his own business opportunities despite having three young children.
  • Andrew negotiated his 156-acre North Carolina deal down from $720K to $650K after discovering unexpected demolition costs, demonstrating flexibility when initial assumptions prove incorrect.
  • Andrew projects his 156-acre property will subdivide into 10+ parcels selling at $8,500-10,000+ per acre (base case $8,500), generating $300-400K profit based on comps of similar properties selling at $10-15K per acre.
  • Andrew uses Claude AI daily to scrape Southeast listings, analyze pricing, and create investor presentations, which eventually replaced the need for his VA on analytical work.

Topics

Land investing business model and niche selectionSubdividing strategy (minor and exempt subdivisions)Marketing evolution: direct mail to on-market focusRealtor relationships and deal sourcingDue diligence process and financial analysisFunding and capital partnershipsRisk assessment and probability-based decision makingAI tools for deal analysis and marketing automation

Transcript

All right, everybody, welcome back to the Real Estate Investing Podcast. Super excited to have Andrew Frezza with me here today. Andrew's been in this business for about a year. Some really cool stories, some amazing success so far. Andrew, welcome to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me on, Ron. So talk to me. You said you've been in this business for about a year. Talk to me about what your transition, where you're transitioning from and where land investing came into the picture. Yeah. So I've kind of been in a career transition for a few years now. The majority of my adult career was spent in the fitness industry. I was a CrossFit gym owner, started…

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