How to Become the Most Confident Version of Yourself & Step Into Your Power
Mel Robbins interviews bestselling author and pastor Sarah Jakes Roberts, who shares her journey from becoming a pregnant teenager at 13 to becoming a powerful speaker and author. The conversation centers on self-forgiveness, healing from shame, and the process of transforming painful past experiences into sources of wisdom and power. Sarah introduces several key frameworks including 'opening the cupboard,' 'looking at the whole movie,' and understanding that power is fluid and defined by authenticity, resilience, and humility.
Summary
Mel Robbins introduces Sarah Jakes Roberts as one of the most inspiring voices on healing, self-forgiveness, and reinvention, describing her as someone who can take the messiest parts of being human and transform them into wisdom. The conversation begins with Sarah inviting listeners to 'rest in the truth of who you are' — not just the achievements, but also the hard and challenging parts — and to use that full truth to propel themselves forward.
Sarah shares her personal backstory: she became pregnant at 13 and had her son at 14, while being the daughter of a prominent megachurch pastor. Rather than feeling supported by her faith community, she felt this confirmed a pre-existing sense that she didn't belong among the 'good church girls.' For the next decade, she engaged in a pattern of comparison and identity-seeking — trying on different versions of herself through relationships, jobs, and achievements — until she decided to stand 'flat-footed' in the truth of who she was, even if that truth meant isolation and not fitting anywhere.
A central theme of the conversation is Sarah's distinction between sitting with yourself as punishment versus sitting with yourself with the intention of compassion. She argues that you cannot heal while simultaneously punishing yourself, and that many people mistakenly believe self-flagellation will prevent future mistakes or protect them from rejection. True healing begins when you replace guilt with compassion and allow love to flood the dark places inside you.
Sarah introduces the powerful metaphor of 'opening the cupboard' — the idea that we all have ingredients (our experiences, mistakes, traumas, and gifts) that we keep hidden out of shame. She argues that people-pleasing and inauthenticity arise from keeping the cabinet closed, and that true transformation begins when you open it, look at everything honestly, and start using all your ingredients to cook something authentic. She ties this to her early blogging career, where she discovered that the very things she thought disqualified her — teen pregnancy, divorce, dropping out of college — were precisely what created deep connection with her audience.
Sarah also introduces the concept of 'discounting yourself,' explaining how societal standards (particularly purity culture in her case) cause people to mark down their own worth after perceived failures, leading them to accept less than they deserve in relationships and life. She argues the inverse is true: the wisdom and resilience gained from difficult experiences actually increases one's value rather than diminishing it.
The conversation explores the idea of 'looking at the whole movie' rather than replaying one painful scene on a loop. Sarah describes how she moved from cringing at her 13-year-old self to feeling compassion for her, understanding the loneliness, anger, and lack of belonging that led to her choices. She encourages listeners to contextualize their past decisions within the full circumstances of their lives.
Sarah defines power not as dominance or unbreakability, but as a fluid confluence of 100% authenticity, 100% resilience, and 100% humility. She argues that power is not a destination but a flow, and that this flow can move with you into new seasons of life. Confidence, she says (drawing on Esther Perel's definition), is the intentional owning of your existence — knowing both your gifts and your flaws and not being destabilized by either success or failure.
A key practical insight Sarah offers is to 'let it live outside of you' — to give voice to who you are becoming. She argues that speaking your evolving identity into the world creates space internally for more growth and externally for that new version of yourself to take root. She shares how she had to reclaim opportunities that were turned down on her behalf because people had a fixed idea of who she was.
The conversation also touches on the famous 'wig incident' where Sarah's wig slipped off during a sermon. Rather than fleeing the stage, she removed it and continued preaching, which she describes as an accidental but powerful demonstration of authenticity that liberated many women in the audience. She frames this as a divine message confirming that her most authentic self is what she's been called to bring to her platform.
Mel offers a powerful observation near the end: that Sarah's life story — getting pregnant within a purity culture context — was perhaps intentionally designed to create an entirely different definition of what it means to be a godly woman, offering a new path for generations of women who couldn't see themselves in the singular narrative being offered. Sarah receives this with deep reflection, connecting it to the intentionality she believes underlies all of existence.
About this episode
Today, you’re going to hear one of the most emotional and inspiring episodes that has ever been on The Mel Robbins Podcast. When the world feels overwhelming… When you’re discouraged… When you feel beaten up by life… When you’re tired of carrying the past around… This is the episode to press play on. In this powerful episode, Mel revisits her conversation with Sarah Jakes Roberts, with a brand-new introduction and new insights for right now. This is a conversation Mel personally returns to when she needs hope, motivation, optimism, and a reminder that change is possible. Sarah Jakes Roberts is a New York Times bestselling author, pastor, and speaker. Pregnant at 13, married by 19, divorced by 22, and all while under the intense scrutiny as the daughter of a famous mega-church pastor, Sarah knows what it’s like to be knocked down. But more importantly, she shares what it takes to get back up. In this conversation, she is going to show you how to stop letting one mistake, one season, one heartbreak, or one painful scene become your entire identity. Sarah teaches you what it truly means to be powerful, how to reclaim your confidence, and how to create a new version of yourself. If you or someone you love needs hope, forgiveness, and a way forward, this is the exact episode to listen to today. You are so much more powerful than you know. And Sarah Jakes Roberts will convince you of that. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked the episode, check out this one next: How to Eliminate Self-Doubt Forever & Build Unshakeable Confidence Connect with Mel: Order Mel’s product, Pure Genius Protein Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer
Key Insights
- Sarah Jakes Roberts argues that you cannot heal while simultaneously punishing yourself — the act of self-punishment is framed as a misguided protective mechanism, not a path to growth.
- Roberts describes a decade-long pattern of identity-seeking through comparison, where she attempted to become various versions of other women rather than herself, which she argues prevented any authentic self-discovery.
- Sarah introduces the 'cupboard' metaphor, arguing that shame causes people to hide their painful experiences, but those closed doors give other people power over them — only opening the cupboard restores personal agency.
- Roberts contends that societal standards (particularly purity culture) cause people to 'discount' their self-worth after perceived failures, leading them to accept less in relationships and life than they would if they felt fully valued.
- Sarah argues that the experiences that make people cringe — when viewed in the context of the full 'movie' of their life — reveal that most people made the best choices they could given what they had to work with at the time.
- Roberts defines power not as strength or dominance, but as a fluid combination of 100% authenticity, 100% resilience, and 100% humility — describing it as a flow rather than a destination.
- Sarah argues that speaking your evolving identity out loud — 'letting it live outside of you' — creates internal space for further growth and external room for that new version of yourself to take root in reality.
- Roberts describes confidence (drawing on Esther Perel) as the intentional owning of one's full identity — including both gifts and flaws — without being destabilized by either success or failure.
- Sarah argues that most people underestimate how necessary their existence is, and that this underestimation leads to a posture of resignation that diminishes both their own lives and the world around them.
- Roberts suggests that resentment toward people you care about or things you once loved is a reliable signal that you've set a precedent you can no longer authentically fulfill and need to renegotiate.
- Sarah describes her 'wig incident' as an unintentional but divinely timed moment that demonstrated radical authenticity on stage, arguing it became more impactful than the sermon itself by giving others permission to show up as they truly are.
- Roberts argues that there are always 'versions of yourself' yet to be revealed, and that getting stuck in either a past or present identity prevents the natural unfolding of future expressions of who you are becoming.
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Transcript
Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. Today, I'm going to answer a question that I get asked from listeners of the Mel Robbins Podcast around the world. I get this question almost every day, and this is the question. Mel, who do you listen to? When life gets hard, when the world seems overwhelming, when you feel discouraged or beaten up by life? Who do you listen to, Mel? Who's the voice that gives you hope, that opens your mind and your heart? Who's the person that you can listen to all day long? You know, someone who just makes you feel like everything's going to be okay, that you have the power to…
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