"We Die For Their Wars" | Official Preview
This preview transcript features Megyn Kelly and Sean discussing conservative media infighting, particularly centered on conflicts with Ben Shapiro over Israel, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens. The conversation also touches on AI fears and a blunt critique of U.S. foreign policy toward Israel. The tone is candid and confrontational, revealing deep fractures within conservative circles.
Summary
The transcript opens with a discussion about the fallout Megyn Kelly and others have faced from figures within the conservative movement, including a mention of Trump calling someone 'low IQ' and a 'nut job.' There is a brief reference to Mark Levin describing Trump as 'our first Jewish president' who loves Israel.
A significant portion of the conversation focuses on Ben Shapiro and the deteriorating relationships within conservative media. Ben Shapiro is described as having turned on the speaker at a Turning Point event in December, publicly calling out cowardice regarding Candace Owens and her attacks on Erica Kirk. The speaker clarifies that the real issue was her refusal to end her friendship with Tucker Carlson, noting that only one side was demanding she cut ties with the other. The speaker expresses hurt and confusion over being called an anti-semite via text messages, saying the behavior by people both privately and publicly has been 'repulsive.'
The conversation briefly touches on a Golden Globe nomination that the speaker declined, saying they didn't want to pay to be considered by 'Hollywood libtards,' contrasting this with Ben Shapiro allegedly spending millions on a Times Square billboard to court Golden Globe voters.
The transcript then shifts to concerns about artificial intelligence, with the speaker expressing worry about superintelligence and machines eventually developing their own agency, referencing Elon Musk's warning that no one should start a retirement fund due to AI's trajectory. There is discussion about where AI systems get their funding and a darkly humorous comparison to communist government resource distribution.
The most inflammatory segment involves a stark critique of U.S.-Israel relations, with the speaker describing the United States as a 'cash cow pasture full of cattle for Israel,' arguing that Americans fight and die for Israel's wars and fund its Iron Dome without receiving meaningful reciprocation. The speaker also expresses a firm refusal to be controlled or pressured into denouncing certain individuals, framing personal loyalty and independence as non-negotiable.
Key Insights
- The speaker clarifies that Ben Shapiro's conflict with her was not primarily about Candace Owens or Erica Kirk, but specifically about pressure to end her friendship with Tucker Carlson — and she notes only one side was asking her to cut ties with the other.
- The speaker received text messages from individuals calling her an anti-semite and describes the behavior from people within conservative circles, both privately and publicly, as 'repulsive' — signaling a serious personal and ideological rupture.
- The speaker bluntly states that the United States functions like a 'cash cow pasture full of cattle for Israel,' arguing Americans fight and die in Israel's wars and fund its Iron Dome without Israel meaningfully advancing U.S. interests in return.
- The speaker expresses genuine concern that AI will develop superintelligence and its own agency, referencing Elon Musk's claim that no one should bother starting a retirement fund given where AI development is headed.
- Ben Shapiro is described as having allegedly spent millions placing his face on a large Times Square building to court Golden Globe voters for his conservative show — which the speaker argues was never going to win with that Hollywood crowd anyway.
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Transcript
[0:00] How are you dealing with all these people coming after you? >> You had no idea that was going to happen. >> We were good friends. >> Got Trump saying your low IQ. I read I got the tweet here, but I'm not going to lie. >> And nut job too. Low IQ. Nut job. >> Mark Lev >> and I said this is our first Jewish president >> and he loves Israel too. It's true. >> Ben Shapiro. How did all this happen? His point was that you were sounding like a neocon and he's upset with [0:31] anybody who wants us to get too involved in Israel's conflict because he feels it endangers American children. >> It's…
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