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His First Border Bust Involved Fake Cartel Cops 😳

Shawn Ryan Show

A border patrol agent describes his first major drug bust at the US-Mexico border, where they seized 3,000 lbs of drugs loaded in trucks. The operation was complicated by cartel members impersonating police using fake vehicles identical to official border patrol trucks, and he reflects on the ethical differences between interrogation methods used by Mexican officials versus those permitted in the United States.

Summary

The speaker recounts one of his early significant experiences working at the border, involving a large-scale drug seizure of approximately 3,000 pounds per week. The operation required loading the contraband into multiple vehicles, including an extended cab long bed Chevy truck that was filled to capacity, demonstrating the substantial volume of the bust. A notable complication arose from what are called 'pseudo cops'β€”cartel operatives who obtain uniforms and acquire vehicles that are identical in year, make, and model to official vehicles used by Mexican authorities (Amilite's or border patrol trucks), which they paint to match official livery. These fake police then conduct their own criminal operations using this disguise as cover. During the bust, these pseudo cops attempted to intervene, but they were identified as fraudulent law enforcement. Following the incident, Mexican officials working through official liaison channels conducted an interrogation that yielded a confession from one of the suspects. However, the speaker notes reading a report indicating that Mexican interrogators used a pencil inserted into a gunshot wound and twisted it to elicit the confession. He acknowledges this method's effectiveness while emphasizing that such interrogation tactics are not permissible within the United States legal system, expressing a degree of pragmatic acceptance of the international differences in law enforcement practices.

Key Insights

  • Cartels deploy 'pseudo cops' who acquire identical replicas of official border patrol and Mexican authority vehicles, complete with matching uniforms and paint jobs, to conduct their own criminal operations disguised as law enforcement
  • A single drug seizure operation at the border resulted in loading 3,000 lbs of drugs across multiple trucks, with quantities so large they filled an extended cab long bed Chevy truck completely over capacity
  • Mexican officials used severe physical torture (inserting and twisting a pencil in a gunshot wound) during interrogation to extract confessions, which the speaker acknowledges was effective but notes is prohibited in United States law enforcement
  • The speaker expresses pragmatic acceptance of differing interrogation standards between the US and Mexico, appreciating the results obtained by Mexican officials while recognizing the legal and ethical incompatibility with American law
  • Cartel operatives pose as police by acquiring the exact same year, make, and model vehicles as official border patrol trucks and painting them identically to conduct 'hits' and other criminal activities

Topics

Border drug seizures and trafficking operationsCartel impersonation tactics (pseudo cops)International law enforcement cooperationInterrogation methods and ethical differences between countriesEarly career experiences in border patrol

Transcript

[0:00] Remember your first big bust? So, you go to the border. One of the first things we get called out on is like 3,000 lb a week. What is it? A semi? I had an extended cab long bed Chevy. We loaded that thing. I mean, I'm literally in the truck over my head right here. Driving like [music] this and we loaded another truck. They call them pseudo cops. So, you got cartel, they'll go get the uniforms. They'll have the exact same year model make of either the Amilite's or the border patrol truck, painted exactly the same and they ride around doing hits. They came over like they were the police, [music] but it's a [0:30]…

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