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Access Deep Places

A rabbi explores the concept of accessing deeper emotional and spiritual spaces within oneself, particularly regarding jealousy, selflessness, and communal responsibility. He emphasizes that learning Torah and genuine personal growth involve moving beyond surface-level denial of negative emotions to accessing profound places within where authentic giving and connection naturally emerge.

Summary

The speaker begins by introducing a subtle but important principle about studying Torah: that Torah teaches about our 'deepest spaces'—areas within ourselves that are deeper than our surface emotions and reactions. He uses jealousy as an example, explaining that merely shaming or denying jealousy doesn't eliminate it; people can pretend they're not jealous while remaining so internally. Similarly, he discusses anger, noting that saying 'I'm not angry' doesn't change the reality of anger.

The core principle presented is that through learning and contemplation, we can access spaces within ourselves that transcend our immediate emotional states. These deeper places exist as real dimensions of our consciousness—spaces of faith, generosity, and connection to the divine.

The speaker then pivots to a larger question about human nature: are people fundamentally selfish or giving? He observes that people often interpret the same reality differently—some see universal selfishness, others see generosity. He argues that at our starting point (influenced by how we're created), humans are self-centered, as evidenced in small children. However, he claims that people can access deeper spaces where authentic generosity naturally emerges. He illustrates this through the observation that selfish dating often evolves into genuine giving when people become parents or married, suggesting an innate capacity for deeper connection.

The speaker addresses the distinction between therapeutic work (validating who people are) and rabbinic guidance (pointing toward deeper capacities). He emphasizes that a spiritual teacher should help students access profound places within themselves, not just validate their current state.

He then discusses the balance between personal inner work (bein adam l'atzmi) and responsibility to others (bein adam l'chaveri). Early in his yeshiva's history, he emphasized communal responsibility heavily, but he reduced this emphasis when he recognized it could foster codependence—where people avoid their own emotional work by focusing excessively on helping others. He's now re-emphasizing communal responsibility, but with the understanding that genuine giving comes from accessing authentic inner spaces, not from forced obligation.

The speaker references Parashat Nitzavim and the halachic principle of Shema K'Oinah (hearing is like saying), using it to explore how we're genuinely connected to one another. He argues that we're deeply interconnected—our successes and failures affect each other fundamentally—and this isn't metaphorical but ontological.

He explores the difference between shallow gratitude ('note to self: be grateful') and authentic gratitude as accessing a genuine space of appreciation within oneself. Using the example of wedding blessings before chasenei leave their parents, he illustrates how healthy people access genuine spaces of appreciation rather than performing gratitude.

Final themes include the critique that therapy without Torah can lead to self-absorption, and the claim that Reb Chaim Volozhin's statement 'we were created to give' means that healthy human existence involves both personal development and authentic engagement with others. The speaker argues that ignoring either dimension—personal work or communal responsibility—represents a kind of self-destruction.

About this episode

<p>Rabbi Kalish </p>

Key Insights

  • The speaker argues that denying or shaming negative emotions like jealousy and anger doesn't eliminate them; people can convince themselves they don't feel these things while remaining internally possessed by them.
  • The speaker claims that through Torah study and contemplation, people can access genuine inner spaces that transcend their immediate emotional reactions, such as spaces of faith, generosity, and connection.
  • The speaker contends that human selfishness at our starting point is not a fixed trait but rather a developmental stage, and that people naturally access deeper capacities for genuine giving as they mature and take on responsibilities like parenthood.
  • The speaker argues that codependence—where people help others to avoid dealing with their own emotional and relational difficulties—can masquerade as genuine generosity and communal responsibility.
  • The speaker claims that authentic gratitude, appreciation, and other emotional experiences represent genuine inner spaces that can be accessed, rather than external behaviors to be performed or forced.
  • The speaker contends that we are profoundly and ontologically interconnected as Jewish souls, not merely metaphorically, and that one person's spiritual condition affects all others.
  • The speaker argues that a spiritual teacher's primary function differs from a therapist's: the teacher should point students toward deeper capacities within themselves that they haven't yet accessed, while the therapist validates the person's current state.
  • The speaker claims that ignoring either personal inner work or communal responsibility represents a form of self-destruction, as the neshama (soul) requires both dimensions to experience genuine fulfillment and wholeness.

Topics

Accessing deeper emotional and spiritual spaces within oneselfThe difference between denial/shame and authentic emotional integrationHuman nature: selfishness versus innate capacity for genuine givingBalance between personal inner work (bein adam l'atzmi) and responsibility to others (bein adam l'chaveri)Codependence and avoidance of personal work through excessive focus on helping othersThe principle of deep interconnection between Jewish souls (Shema K'Oinah)Authentic gratitude versus performative gratitudeThe role of a spiritual teacher versus a therapistTorah study as a means of accessing deeper places within oneselfThe healthy integration of self-care and service to others

Transcript

I want to speak to the guys about a topic that I think is deep. I'm not like, oh, this is deep. I don't care if it's shallow, deep. I'm not like the raider. You could raid. It's not like a trick. I'm just asking. The only reason I'm saying it's deep, I'm asking you to listen. It's subtle is really what I want to say in the tunnel. Gabriel, I want guys guys if i could have if if a guy can't focus it's good to i like you anyway if a guy could try i'm telling you something subtle if you want if you'll hear it i want i want to learn something that i think is is…

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