JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck
Joe Rogan hosts UFC fighters Matt Serra and Dean Thomas discussing old UFC stories, including Tommy Lee wanting to fight Kid Rock, current fight analyses, and various topics ranging from MMA rule changes to entertainment and personal anecdotes.
Summary
This episode of the JRE MMA Show features Joe Rogan in conversation with UFC veterans Matt Serra and Dean Thomas. The discussion begins with Serra recounting a wild story from 2006-2007 about Tommy Lee wanting to fight Kid Rock in the UFC over Pamela Anderson, which never materialized due to management concerns about the loser being 'ruined for life.' The conversation flows through various MMA topics including current fighter analyses, with particular focus on upcoming fights like Gane vs. Pereira and discussions about fighters like Ilia Topuria, Justin Gaethje, and Charles Oliveira. They debate MMA rules extensively, particularly advocating for allowing knees to grounded opponents and criticizing the current 10-point must scoring system. The trio discusses eye pokes as a major problem in MMA and potential solutions like Trevor Whitman's gloves or point deductions. Personal stories emerge throughout, including Serra's embarrassing bathroom emergency on the way to the airport and his ulcerative colitis struggles. The conversation touches on entertainment topics like Game of Thrones, Harry Potter, VR gaming, and various Netflix shows. They discuss the upcoming UFC event at the White House, expressing concerns about outdoor fighting conditions. The episode also covers their experiences with jiu-jitsu legends like Renzo Gracie and John Danaher, UFC history, and various pop culture references including comic books, movies, and TV shows.
Key Insights
- Serra reveals that Tommy Lee's management offered Kid Rock's team a pay-per-view fight in 2007, but Kid Rock's people declined saying 'whoever loses is ruined for life' due to both having tough guy images
- The group argues that the current MMA scoring system is fundamentally flawed because it was stolen from boxing and doesn't account for submission attempts, takedown attempts, or varying degrees of dominance within rounds
- Rogan explains that DC and other fighters wore steel cups in competition, which is legal but creates an unfair advantage since you're essentially bringing metal armor to protect yourself while being able to use it offensively
- Serra describes George St. Pierre as potentially curing his ulcerative colitis through extended fasting, specifically three-day fasts, which Rogan notes as an interesting alternative treatment approach
- The discussion reveals that the upcoming White House UFC event will be held outdoors in summer heat and humidity, with potential for rain and other environmental factors that could affect elite-level championship fights
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Transcript
[0:01] Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. >> Hello, boys. >> Good to see you. >> We're back in action. >> We're back. >> WE'RE BACK. >> WE were just talking and I told to get off. I told Ro, save this for the air cuz Ro years ago. [ __ ] this had to be like at least 10 years ago. 20 years ago, >> that was like 2006, 2007. [0:32] >> Crazy. So 20 years ago, Ro calls me up and he says, "Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something." I go, "Okay, sure." So…
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