Revisions, Revisions, Revisions
The Moody's Analytics team discusses significant economic data releases including revised GDP figures showing stronger growth than initially reported, weak employment numbers with downward revisions, and declining inflation. They analyze the apparent disconnect between robust GDP growth and sluggish job creation, attributing it to productivity gains potentially driven by AI.
Summary
Mark Zandi hosts his co-hosts Marissa DiNatale, Chris Drunis, and guest Dante D'Antonio to analyze a busy week of economic data. The centerpiece is the September jobs report, which showed only 29,000 jobs added with significant downward revisions to prior months totaling 60,000. The three-month average job growth stands at approximately 50,000 per month, which the team identifies as the underlying trend rate. Wage growth continues to decelerate, with year-over-year gains now at 3%—below inflation levels and the weakest since late 2019. This deceleration suggests the labor market still has slack despite a 4.2% unemployment rate.
The team also reviews GDP revisions that substantially raised growth estimates. Q2 GDP was revised upward to 2.2% annualized (from 2%), and Q1 was revised to 2.5% (from 1.5%). These benchmark revisions, which incorporated data back to 2021, show consumer spending and investment—particularly in data centers—were stronger than initially reported. Private domestic spending grew at 4.6% annualized in Q2. However, this strong GDP growth contrasts sharply with weak job creation, implying significant productivity improvements.
The hosts debate whether AI is driving these productivity gains. They identify evidence of AI's labor market impact: data center construction adding jobs (positive) while white-collar jobs in finance, professional services, and information technology decline (negative), resulting in near-zero net employment change in non-healthcare sectors. Chris Drunis suggests AI is more about firms pulling back on hiring and waiting to see rather than directly replacing workers.
Inflation data also improved, with the PCE deflator revised downward through methodological changes in how financial services are measured. Headline PCE stands at 3.4% and core PCE at exactly 3%, still above the Fed's 2% target but moving in the right direction. The team notes consumer spending remains resilient despite high inflation and interest rates, though real disposable personal income growth has stalled at zero.
They discuss labor market dynamics including a low job openings-to-unemployed ratio of 1:1 (compared to 2:1 during the pandemic), indicating difficulty finding employment. The Conference Board's labor market differential fell to 1.7%, its lowest in over a decade, reflecting sharply weakened consumer sentiment. Notably, quit rates remain depressed, particularly in white-collar sectors vulnerable to AI disruption, suggesting workers are fearful of job loss and reluctant to switch employers.
Regarding Fed policy, market expectations shifted decisively toward a pause at the October meeting based on weak employment and contained inflation data. December rate hikes remain 67% probable but declined from prior expectations. Bond yields initially fell but then recovered, with the 10-year at 5.25%, suggesting bond investors remain concerned about inflation, deficits, debt sustainability, and geopolitical risks rather than being convinced by stronger growth narratives.
About this episode
Dante joined the Inside Economics crew to discuss the September employment report, which told a more consistent story of a soft labor market. The team also dove into the bevy of other economic data released this week, including GDP, inflation, income, and spending. Recent data revisions were a recurring theme throughout the discussion, but in the end, the balance of revisions does not fundamentally change the team’s outlook.
Key Insights
- The underlying monthly job growth rate of approximately 50,000 jobs masks significant sectoral divergence, with healthcare adding 23,000 of 29,000 total jobs and non-healthcare job growth essentially flat over the past year.
- Year-over-year wage growth has decelerated to 3% annually, the weakest since late 2019 (excluding post-pandemic noise), despite inflation remaining above 3%, indicating real wage decline and suggesting the labor market operates below full employment.
- GDP growth revisions showed Q2 grew at 2.2% and Q1 at 2.5% annualized, substantially higher than initially reported, while job revisions point to weaker employment than previously estimated, creating an apparent productivity surge primarily in white-collar industries like finance and information services.
- Quit rates remain historically depressed, particularly in white-collar sectors most vulnerable to AI disruption, suggesting workers perceive difficulty in finding alternative employment and are choosing job stability over higher wage opportunities.
- The Conference Board labor market differential fell to 1.7%, its lowest in over a decade, driven primarily by a sharp decline in respondents' assessments of present economic conditions rather than future expectations, indicating acute current weakness.
- AI's net labor market impact appears approximately neutral at present, with positive job creation in data center construction offsetting negative employment in finance, professional services, and information sectors, though the negative effects may intensify over time.
- Bond yields remain elevated at 5.25% on the 10-year despite weak employment data suggesting Fed pause, indicating bond investors are more concerned about deficits, debt sustainability, geopolitical risks, and monetary policy uncertainty than about stronger growth narratives.
- Consumer spending remains resilient despite zero real disposable personal income growth and high interest rates, with real spending up 0.6% month-over-month in the latest period, though concentrated in discretionary categories that skew toward higher-income households.
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Transcript
Welcome to Inside Economics. I'm Mark Zandi, the Chief Economist of Moody's Analytics, and I'm joined by my two trusty co-hosts, Marissa DiNatale, Chris Drunis. Hi, guys. Hi, Mark. Hi, Mark. Marissa'sNatale, Chris Drudis. Hi, guys. Hi, Mark. Hi, Mark. Marissa's always slow to say hello to me. I let Chris. Chris always jumps in with the hi, Mark, first, so I wait until that greeting is out of the way. So you are happy to see me. Oh, I am. I am. Very happy. Okay. Just checking. Just checking. And we got Dante. Dante, Dr. D'Antonio. How are you, Dante? Doing all right. How are you? Good, good. And all three of us were, where were we exactly? Washington,…
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