OpinionTechnical

China’s NEW Meituan LongCat 2.0 Tested!

Julian Goldie SEO

The video reviews Long Cat 2.0, a new open-source Chinese AI model with 1.6 trillion parameters trained on Meituan's custom chip without Nvidia hardware. Despite decent benchmark performance, hands-on testing shows it underperforms compared to GLM-5.2 in practical applications like game creation, making GLM-5.2 the stronger open-source alternative.

Summary

The video discusses Long Cat 2.0, a newly released open-source AI model from China that serves as the full model behind the previously available Owl Alpha API. The model features Long Cat sparse attention and mixture of experts architecture. On benchmarks like Terminal Bench 2.1, it holds its own against other models, though Opus 4.8 significantly outperforms it. A notable aspect is that Long Cat was trained on Meituan's proprietary chip without using any Nvidia hardware—Meituan being China's equivalent to DoorDash, highlighting how major non-tech companies are now developing their own AI models.

The presenter tested Long Cat's practical capabilities by creating various games including Dragon Realm, Skyrim-style games, and other interactive applications. The results were mixed, with graphics and functionality being basic and buggy compared to alternatives. On benchmark evaluations, Long Cat slightly underperforms GPT-4.5, though it outperforms it on SWE-bench Pro. However, the most relevant comparison is against GLM-5.2, another recent Chinese open-source model.

Side-by-side testing against GLM-5.2 showed consistent advantages for GLM-5.2 across multiple game generation tasks: the Crib game, Dragon Ball game, Skyrim implementation, and Voxel Craft all performed notably better with GLM-5.2, featuring better graphics, fewer bugs, and more interesting gameplay mechanics. The presenter concludes that while Long Cat is interesting as an emerging model, GLM-5.2 remains the superior choice for open-source applications and practical use cases.

Key Insights

  • Long Cat 2.0 was trained entirely on Meituan's custom chip without using any Nvidia hardware, demonstrating China's capability to develop AI independently of U.S. semiconductor constraints
  • Meituan, primarily known as China's DoorDash equivalent, entered the AI model space with Long Cat, exemplifying how major non-tech companies are now developing their own AI models
  • Long Cat performs slightly below GPT-4.5 on Terminal Bench but actually outperforms it on SWE-bench Pro according to official evaluations
  • GLM-5.2 consistently outperformed Long Cat across multiple practical game generation tasks, suggesting benchmark scores don't always correlate with real-world application quality
  • Long Cat's API is not currently accessible unless users have a Chinese setup, limiting practical availability for international users despite being open-source

Topics

Long Cat 2.0 AI modelOpen-source Chinese AI developmentMeituan custom chip trainingBenchmark comparisonsPractical testing through game creationGLM-5.2 comparisonEnterprise AI adoption

Transcript

[0:00] Today we have a brand-new update from a Chinese model that's open source. It is called Long Cat 2.0 is here. And this is actually the full model behind Owl Alpha. So, if you're familiar with Owl Alpha, which was a free API, you can actually use it with Hermes, you could plug it into Claude code before, and it was not bad at all. It is a gigantic model, and this was actually revealed as Long Cat 2.0. So, this is [0:30] now officially been released, and you can get access to it, and you can see the full details right here. So, it's got Long Cat sparse attention, um zero compute experts, MOPD. Stacks up not badly…

Full transcript available for MurmurCast members

Sign Up to Access

More from Julian Goldie SEO

Get AI summaries like this delivered to your inbox daily

Get AI summaries delivered to your inbox

MurmurCast summarizes your YouTube channels, podcasts, and newsletters into one daily email digest.