Devon and Sydney Carlson: Sisters, Situationships, & Starting a Business (FBF)
Sisters Devon and Sydney Carlson discuss their journey founding Wildflower Cases after Miley Cyrus's encouragement, their close sisterhood despite a rough period during Devon's toxic relationship, and their contrasting dating styles and personalities.
Summary
Devon and Sydney Carlson appear on Call Her Daddy to discuss their lives as sisters, business partners, and entrepreneurs. They explain how Wildflower Cases began ten years ago when their mother handmade phone cases as a birthday gift. After random people kept asking where they got them, the cases gained attention at school. The pivotal moment came when Miley Cyrus complimented a case in a restaurant bathroom and encouraged them to start a business. Their father created a website overnight, and Miley tweeted about the cases, causing the business to explode. They sold their house to fund the company and moved into their grandparents' house, where they ran operations for the first five years. Their parents eventually quit their jobs to help, signaling the business had become serious. The sisters note that while entrepreneurship wasn't supported as a norm when they were younger, they've since built a team that allows them to delegate and actually enjoy their lives. The conversation shifts to their relationship dynamics. Devon reveals she was in an intense relationship from age 18 to 22 with a musician and drug addict. During this period, she isolated herself from family and friends, developed an eating disorder, and bleached her hair as a coping mechanism. Sydney and their family didn't support the relationship, creating distance between the sisters—Devon felt obligated to her boyfriend while Sydney felt she was losing her sister. After he cheated (discovered when another woman DM'd her photos), Devon finally ended things. Sydney and their family immediately rallied around her, taking her to Disneyland and reintegrating her into healthy social circles. Devon is now exclusively dating someone who has proven himself through her "craziest moments." Sydney, by contrast, has only been on one official date in her life. She doesn't enjoy traditional dating and only enters relationships with people she's already close friends with. She's currently single and content being alone, prioritizing self-focus. The sisters describe their personalities: Devon is a social butterfly who can befriend strangers easily, while Sydney is the dry, funny one whose humor is subtle and monotone. They fight occasionally about clothes but never have serious fights. Their friend group overlaps completely, and they hang out daily. They discuss their dating types: Devon is attracted to musicians and people who are comfortable being themselves, while Sydney likes funny people with unique or "off" looks. Both acknowledge being attracted to toxic traits—Devon to big personalities and witty people, Sydney to interesting-looking individuals. They play a game where they predict which sister is more likely to do various things. Results show Sydney gets away with more, both steal from each other's closets, Sydney posts drunk more often, Devon is more likely to text exes drunk, and Sydney has had a foursome. Neither would cheat, both are loyal, and neither would slide into celebrity DMs. Sydney shares a chaotic dating story from New York where she was hungry and irritable before a date, argued with her date over timing and food, paid for dinner when he forgot his wallet, and then had sex with him after his car got towed. The next morning he bought her flowers, and when he picked up her sister, Sydney made a joke that he looked like an Uber driver, embarrassing him intentionally.
About this episode
This episode, Devon and Sydney Carlson join Father Cooper. They’re sisters, best friends and business partners. Devon and Sydney recount how a bathroom run-in with Miley Cyrus led to the overnight development of their company, Wildflower. The sisters spill all of their secrets while playing a game of “Who is More Likely to ...” Which Carlson sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club and who will be texting their ex once they get drunk? Which sister gives better head? Devon and Sydney do not hold back while discussing their dating lives. Devon reveals the extreme lengths she went to in order to stalk her ex on social media and how she struggled being single after a long term relationship ended. Sydney opens up about her ex’s drug addiction, the effect it had on her mentally and physically, and how it ultimately led her to push away from family and friends.
Key Insights
- The Carlson sisters' business success was initiated by random strangers complimenting handmade phone cases at school, demonstrating organic product validation before any formal business launch.
- Devon's toxic relationship from ages 18-22 caused her to isolate from family and friends, develop an eating disorder, and bleach her hair, showing how toxic partnerships create physical and psychological deterioration.
- Sydney intentionally maintains emotional distance from her sister's relationships that she disapproves of, but rallies immediately when those relationships end, using positive experiences like Disneyland trips to help her sister reintegrate socially.
- Devon attributes her attraction to musicians and independent personalities to her lifestyle requiring constant travel and flexible schedules, suggesting romantic preferences are shaped by professional circumstances.
- Sydney only enters relationships with people she's already close friends with and has deliberately avoided traditional dating, indicating a fundamental disinterest in conventional romantic development processes.
- The sisters' fighting style is notably non-toxic—they bicker about surface-level issues like borrowed clothes but resolve disputes within five minutes and move on, contrasting sharply with typical sibling conflict.
- Devon engages in obsessive digital stalking behavior (creating fake accounts and monitoring ex-partners' tour locations), yet she and Sydney both view this as normal and non-pathological social media behavior.
- Sydney publicly calls out and tests the boundaries of men Devon is dating while in their presence, which Devon views positively as proof that Sydney feels comfortable being herself around acceptable partners.
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