Aly & AJ: Disney & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Alex Cooper hosts Aly & AJ (Michalka) on Call Her Daddy, where the sisters discuss their Disney Channel careers, family dynamics, romantic relationships, and new music. The conversation covers their experiences growing up in the spotlight, their parents' divorce, navigating the music industry as women in their 30s, and their upcoming album.
Summary
Alex Cooper sits down with sisters Aly and AJ Michalka on Call Her Daddy to discuss their careers, personal lives, and new music. The conversation opens with their current lifestyles, noting that while they used to live minutes apart, AJ now lives an hour and a half from Aly after Aly moved closer to her mother in Simi Valley following the birth of her son. They describe their favorite downtime activities as spa days and movie nights.
The sisters reflect on their Disney Channel era, discussing Phil of the Future (two seasons, ~22 episodes each), the song 'Potential Breakup Song,' and how they realized their fame was growing when Aly was mobbed at a Hilary Duff concert. They clarify rumors, including that Aly was never secretly dating her Phil of the Future co-star, and confirm that AJ's first kiss was with Joe Jonas at a bowling alley during a tour where the Jonas Brothers opened for them. They also discuss that Aly was offered the role that became Hannah Montana but declined partly because of her existing music career as Aly & AJ and not wanting AJ reduced to a supporting role.
The sisters discuss their upbringing, crediting their parents — particularly their mother's on-set presence — for keeping them grounded. They describe themselves as non-rebellious teens who were trusted enough by LA club bouncers to enter without causing trouble. They discuss how their similar taste in boys occasionally created tension, sharing a story about Aly leaving her number for a waiter in New York while AJ was also interested in him.
On relationships, AJ revealed she was cheated on, but described the more painful betrayal as being by a close female friend who was involved with the guy she was dating. Aly recounted being broken up with by a professional football player who told her she was 'a distraction from his job.' Aly also discussed meeting her husband Steven on an indie film set where he was the DP, and the difficulty of ending a prior relationship with a man who said he 'made her a woman.' AJ has been with her boyfriend Josh for six years, having met him at the Napa Valley Film Festival.
The sisters discuss their parents' divorce, which happened when they were 19 and 21. They revealed there was infidelity involved, which caused AJ significant emotional trauma and created a persistent fear of being cheated on in her own relationships. Aly was somewhat insulated by being away filming a TV show in Vancouver at the time. Both sisters maintain a good relationship with both parents today.
AJ described her emotional reaction to Aly's engagement — sobbing alone in their shared Laurel Canyon home, fearing she would 'lose her sister' to marriage — a fear that proved unfounded. They also share humorous anecdotes about their father's unusual comments, including telling AJ at Aly's wedding that she 'lost a sister but gained a brother,' and introducing Steven to his deceased father at the open casket funeral.
On their new album, the sisters describe it as their most authentic work, informed by touring and written during Aly's pregnancy. AJ's favorite song is 'Michael's Song,' written about a long-time team member who passed away. Aly's favorites include 'I Don't Know What It Is,' about struggling to make her new Santa Barbara home feel like home during pregnancy, and 'Dandelions,' written for her son Jack before he was born. They also describe a discouraging label meeting where an executive said they were 'not here to break women in their 30s,' which both sisters found deeply frustrating and sexist.
Key Insights
- Aly was offered the lead role in what became Hannah Montana but declined because it conflicted with her existing music identity as Aly & AJ, and she felt the show would only offer AJ a supporting role as the best friend.
- AJ confirmed her first kiss was with Joe Jonas at a bowling alley during a tour where the Jonas Brothers opened for Aly & AJ, and they dated for over a year.
- Aly earned approximately $7,000 per episode on Phil of the Future, which she now recognizes as inadequate compensation, though at the time it seemed fine because they had no frame of reference.
- AJ described the most painful breakup in her life as not the romantic relationship but the accompanying loss of a close female friendship, where the friend had been involved with the guy AJ was dating.
- The sisters attribute their groundedness during their Disney years largely to their mother's on-set presence and their parents not allowing them to attend adult late-night events while underage.
- A music label executive told Aly and AJ during a recent meeting that they were 'not here to break women in their 30s,' feedback both sisters found discriminatory and disconnected from the quality of the music itself.
- AJ argues that her parents' marriage failed partly because all their energy was poured into supporting their daughters' careers, leaving the couple's relationship unattended and without therapy or dedicated time together.
- Aly's husband Steven was initially distrusted by AJ, who felt intimidated by his quiet, intellectual demeanor, but AJ later came to view him as a brother figure and deeply respects him as a husband and father.
- AJ cried alone in her closet when Aly got engaged, not out of unhappiness for her sister but from a fear that marriage would end their sisterhood — a fear she now recognizes was unfounded.
- The sisters describe their new album as having been written and recorded almost entirely during Aly's pregnancy, with AJ's water breaking on the second day of pre-production at Aly's house.
- Aly describes the song 'I Don't Know What It Is' as having taken on a new meaning after the fact — written as a lament about sisters drifting apart, it later became a song about Aly willing her new Santa Barbara house to become a home during pregnancy.
- The sisters believe the label declined their completed album partly because it was already finished, leaving the label no ability to alter the sound or direction, which removed their leverage in the creative process.
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