The next Fed chair
The podcast discusses Kevin Warsh's nomination as Fed chair, analyzing his dual monetary policy views and the market's neutral reaction. The hosts explore Warsh's history of Fed criticism, his productivity-focused economic theories, and concerns about potential changes to Fed independence under Trump.
Summary
The hosts begin by acknowledging their incorrect prediction that Scott Besant would become Fed chair, as Kevin Warsh was nominated instead. They note that markets reacted neutrally to Warsh's nomination - neither weakening rates nor the dollar, which they interpret as cautious approval compared to the alternative candidate Kevin Hassett. Warsh presents an interesting contradiction in monetary policy views: he recently advocated for lower interest rates while simultaneously maintaining his long-held position that the Fed's balance sheet should shrink significantly. The hosts discuss criticism that Warsh has been politically motivated in his monetary policy stances, appearing tougher on monetary policy under Democratic presidents. However, they argue that once in the actual Fed chair role, Warsh will face entirely different incentives and pressures than he has as an outside critic for 15 years. They examine Warsh's belief that AI will drive productivity gains similar to the internet boom of the 1990s, potentially allowing for looser monetary policy without inflation. The conversation also covers Warsh's views on shrinking the Fed's balance sheet more aggressively, which could remove cash from the financial system at a time when massive fiscal deficits require significant bond purchases. The hosts express concern about Warsh's comments regarding increased Fed-Treasury cooperation and his general silence on defending Fed independence from Trump's attacks, viewing this as potentially problematic for central bank autonomy.
About this episode
<p>President Donald Trump announced his pick for the next Fed chair at the end of last week. It was Kevin Warsh, a former member of the Fed Board of Governors. Today on the show, Katie Martin and Rob Armstrong dissect Warsh’s previous statements and try to figure out how being in charge will change his outlook. Also they go long theme parks and short grindcore. </p><br /><p>Take the FT’s anonymous annual bonus survey <a href="https://www.feedback.ft.com/c/r/2026FTBonus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. </p><br /><p>For a free 30-day trial to the Unhedged newsletter go to: <a href="https://www.ft.com/unhedgedoffer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ft.com/unhedgedoffer</a>.</p><br /><p>You can email Robert Armstrong and Katie Martin at <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>.</p><br /><p><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/bca965bc-b786-44a6-9fec-27f7448ea215" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com</strong></a></p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
Key Insights
- The hosts argue that Warsh's 15 years as a Fed critic from the outside will fundamentally change once he faces the actual pressures and accountability of being Fed chair
- Warsh holds contradictory monetary policy views, simultaneously advocating for lower interest rates while supporting aggressive Fed balance sheet reduction
- The hosts identify a concerning pattern where Warsh appears more hawkish on monetary policy under Democratic presidents than Republican ones
- Warsh believes AI will drive productivity gains similar to the 1990s internet boom, justifying looser monetary policy despite limited current evidence
- The hosts express alarm about Warsh's support for increased Fed-Treasury cooperation, viewing it as a potential threat to central bank independence
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Transcript
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