Vanessa Van Edwards on How to Liberate Yourself from Social Anxiety (Replay)
Vanessa Van Edwards, a body language expert and behavioral researcher, discusses how understanding personality traits, values, and self-soothing patterns can transform relationships and personal happiness. She explains the science behind reading people, the dangers of ambivalent relationships, and how learned helplessness affects our ability to pursue happiness.
Summary
Vanessa Van Edwards joins Tom Bilyeu to discuss her research on human behavior and how to improve social interactions and relationships. She explains the Big Five personality traits (OCEAN: Openness, Conscientiousness, Extroversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism) as a framework for understanding how people are wired. Van Edwards emphasizes that neuroticism is not negative but rather describes how someone approaches worry—high neurotics produce serotonin more slowly and struggle with self-soothing, while low neurotics recover quickly from stress. She explains her concept of a personal "matrix"—a cipher for understanding what motivates and drives individual people.
Van Edwards discusses the importance of balancing relationships, particularly noting that low neurotics and high neurotics complement each other well: low neurotics excel in crises while high neurotics prevent crises through their anticipatory worry. She introduces the concept of "ambivalent relationships," which are more damaging than toxic ones because the unclear emotional dynamic drains mental energy. A single diagnostic question determines if someone is truly happy for you: "Are you ever doubting that they're really happy for you?"
The conversation covers body language and facial structure, explaining how testosterone exposure in the womb creates masculinized features (square jaw, flat eyebrows, hooded eyes) that correlate with perceived dominance. Van Edwards notes that understanding one's natural face and optimizing it—rather than fighting it—contributes to success. She shares research on how we can smell emotions through sweat and how the unconscious brain picks up on threats that the conscious mind hasn't yet registered.
Van Edwards discusses resource theory and primary values in motivation, illustrating how she initially misunderstood an employee's needs by assuming money was the primary motivator when status was actually more important. She advocates for radical honesty in relationships and workplaces, asking direct questions about what people actually want rather than making assumptions. The conversation addresses how to identify and categorize self-soothing methods, distinguishing between worrying alone versus with others, and between logistical versus emotional help-seeking.
The transcript concludes with Van Edwards sharing preliminary findings from her happiness research, introducing the concept of learned helplessness based on Seligman's studies with dogs. She explains that people often remain in unhappy patterns even when circumstances change because they've learned to be helpless. She introduces the "chart of happiness" exercise, where people track daily activities and rate them on contentedness, then work to increase time spent on higher-happiness activities. She also shares the concept of "gratitude totems"—using unavoidable small moments of frustration (like red lights) as triggers for gratitude practice.
About this episode
<p>"Captivate" is more than just the title of her new book, it is the effect that Vanessa Van Edwards has on audiences through her videos, articles, and data-driven insights. Vanessa is a self-described recovering awkward person who went from hiding in the bathroom and avoiding people at parties to literally writing the book on deciphering human behavior. </p><p>She founded her own research lab, the Science of People, and has traveled the world as a speaker presenting her findings to prestigious universities, Fortune 500 companies, and media outlets such as The Today Show, The Wall Street Journal, and much more. Learn from the certified fraud examiner, body language expert, and author as she shares practical insights for decoding human behavior in this episode of Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. </p><p><br /></p><p>[Original air date: August 1, 2017]. "</p><p><br /></p><p>FOLLOW VANESSA: </p><p><br /></p><p>FACEBOOK: http://bit.ly/2tQoA9n </p><p>INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2uM1oxi </p><p>TWITTER: http://bit.ly/2uMmn34 </p><p>LINKEDIN: http://bit.ly/2vwrbrj </p><p>WEBSITE: http://bit.ly/1mfaup9 </p><p>YOUTUBE: http://bit.ly/2uLGzTb</p><p><br /></p><p>FOLLOW LISA:</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisabilyeu</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/womenofimpact</p><p>Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lisa_bilyeu?lang=en</p><p><br /></p><p>FOLLOW TOM:</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/</p><p>Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu</p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu</a></p><p><br /></p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p><em>If you purchase an item using these affiliate links, Impact Theory may receive a commission.</em> </p><p>This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Give online therapy a try at <a href="https://betterhelp.com/impacttheory" target="_blank">https://betterhelp.com/impacttheory</a> and get on your way to being your best self!</p><p>Get 5 free AG1 Travel Packs and a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D with your first purchase at <a href="https://bit.ly/AG1Impact" target="_blank">https://drinkag1.com/impact</a>.</p><p>Right now, download NetSuite’s popular KPI Checklist, designed to give you consistently excellent performance - absolutely free, at <a href="https://netsuite.com/theory" target="_blank">https://netsuite.com/theory</a>.</p><p>Head to <a href="https://squarespace.com/impact" target="_blank">https://squarespace.com/impact</a> for a free 14 day trial and 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.</p><p>Secure your digital life with proactive protection for your assets, identity, family, and tech – Go to <a href="https://aura.com/IMPACT" target="_blank">https://aura.com/IMPACT</a> to start your free two-week trial.</p><p>Take control of your gut health by going to <a href="https://tryviome.com/impact" target="_blank">https://tryviome.com/impact</a> and use code IMPACT to get 20% off your first 3 months and free shipping.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong><em>***Are You Ready for EXTRA Impact?***</em></strong></p><p>If you’re ready to find true fulfillment, strengthen your focus, and ignite your true potential, the Impact Theory subscription was created just for you. </p><p><br /></p><p><strong>*New episodes delivered ad-free, EXCLUSIVE access to hundreds of archived Impact Theory episodes, Tom AMAs, and so much more!*</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>This is not for the faint of heart. This is for those who dare to learn obsessively, every day, day after day.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>*****Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: </strong><a href="https://apple.co/3PCvJaz" target="_blank">https://apple.co/3PCvJaz</a>*****</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Subscribe on all other platforms</strong> (Google Podcasts, Spotify, Castro, Downcast, Overcast, Pocket Casts, Podcast Addict, Podcast Republic, Podkicker, and more) : <a href="https://impacttheorynetwork.supercast.com/" target="_blank">https://impacttheorynetwork.supercast.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>
Key Insights
- High neurotics carry a longer form of the serotonin transporter gene, producing less serotonin and more slowly than low neurotics, which means their adrenaline and cortisol remain elevated longer after stressful events.
- Ambivalent relationships—where the emotional dynamic is unclear—drain more mental energy and cause more stress than explicitly toxic relationships because people can easily set boundaries with toxic people but struggle with ambivalent ones.
- Masculinized facial features resulting from prenatal testosterone exposure correlate with perceived dominance and competence, and understanding rather than resisting these features contributes to success in social and professional contexts.
- Humans can chemically detect emotions through smell, specifically fear pheromones in sweat, which activates threat responses in observers' brains even when conscious awareness detects nothing wrong.
- Employees may not respond positively to traditional motivators like raises and bonuses if their primary value is status rather than money, making it essential to identify and address individual's actual motivations.
- Logistical help (tasks to complete) and emotional help (processing feelings) are distinct needs that require different types of support, yet many people conflate them or don't know how to ask for either.
- Recovered awkward people tend to become skilled at reading social interactions because their anxiety forces them to observe patterns and formulas in human behavior that naturally charismatic people don't consciously register.
- The serotonin transporter gene determines whether someone engages in catastrophic worry (high neurotics) or maintains calm optimism (low neurotics), and this is a biochemical trait rather than a character flaw or choice.
- Micro expressions—small facial movements lasting fractions of a second—reveal genuine emotional responses that contradict someone's verbal statements and can be learned and recognized with practice.
- People learn helplessness from past experiences and continue displaying helpless patterns even after circumstances change and escape routes become available, similar to Seligman's dogs who stopped trying to leave shocking mats.
- Happiness comes primarily from accumulated small moments of contentedness rather than rare peak experiences, and identifying and increasing these small moments is more effective for improving overall happiness than pursuing major life changes.
- Personality compatibility in relationships benefits from both matching and opposing traits depending on the trait—neuroticism specifically benefits from balance, with one partner's worry-prevention balanced against the other's crisis-management abilities.
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