If Biden Wins In 2024, This Happens! | Dave Rubin PT 1
Dave Rubin and Tom discuss Biden's cognitive decline, the 2024 election implications, RFK Jr.'s independent candidacy, the deep state's control mechanisms through money printing and foreign wars, and fundamental disagreements about immigration policy, border security, and American values in the context of national identity and assimilation.
Summary
The conversation begins with discussion of Biden's obvious cognitive decline following his debate performance, which the speakers argue was so visibly apparent that the media could not suppress the narrative as they typically do. Rubin contends that Biden is a puppet for a 'deep state' or managerial class, and that the Democratic Party will do anything to retain power, including pushing out Biden or the first Black female VP if necessary. The speakers contrast this with the Republican Party, which they claim conducted fair primary processes even when threatened by Trump's candidacy.
The discussion pivots to RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign, with the speakers analyzing his appeal and potential impact. While Rubin respects RFK personally, he questions whether RFK has fully formed policy positions and suggests RFK would be better suited as a cabinet official (like attorney general) to dismantle federal agencies. Tom argues that RFK represents a reasoned, hopeful vision of America compared to Biden's cognitive failure and Trump's emotionally-driven message. The speakers debate whether RFK spoils more votes from Trump or Biden, with Rubin believing Biden is hurt more due to his appeal to traditional moderate Democrats.
A substantial portion focuses on monetary policy and foreign wars. Tom explains how money printing functions as a hidden tax on citizens to fund wars without Congressional approval, arguing this money flows to military contractors while devaluing citizens' purchasing power. Rubin extends this to how America maintains dependent relationships with countries like Israel through conditional military aid tied to American weapons purchases, creating perpetual warfare incentives.
The speakers extensively debate immigration and border security. Rubin argues that open borders eliminate national sovereignty and identity, citing statistics of 7-12 million undocumented immigrants entering in three years. He contends that without knowing who enters the country, its fundamental nature is threatened. Tom initially plays 'devil's advocate' but ultimately agrees, arguing that America was founded on specific values—Puritan work ethic, self-reliance, industriousness—and that assimilation to these values matters more than demographic diversity. The speakers criticize the Democratic Party for simultaneously promoting open borders, teaching that America is fundamentally evil and racist, and creating government dependency programs that undermine the American dream narrative.
The conversation addresses potential 'national divorce' or state secession, with Rubin expressing concerns that if Biden wins, he might support Florida's separation from the union if federal policies become untenable. He emphasizes immigration control as the primary state-level concern. Tom questions whether this solves problems better than state-level authority, but accepts Rubin's argument that fundamental ideological differences between states make unified governance increasingly difficult.
Throughout, the speakers discuss the importance of culture and values transmission, with Tom emphasizing that politics flows downstream from culture, and that shared values—not diversity of demographics—are necessary for societal cohesion. They both express nostalgia for a Gen X America where racism and bigotry were culturally unacceptable without requiring constant institutional reinforcement. The conversation concludes with discussion of how Americans are losing faith in national institutions and whether Americans need catastrophic events to reset shared national purpose.
About this episode
<p>Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu! In today's episode, we have an in-depth and provocative conversation with our guest, Dave Rubin. From political power plays to personal reflections, this episode covers it all. Dave opens up about a near-death experience that changed his perspective, balancing fatherhood with professional commitments, and why he supports certain political figures over others. </p><p><br /></p><p>We dive into the complexities of Biden’s cognitive decline and the media’s narrative control. Dave gives his candid views on the Democratic Party's pursuit of power, the implications of money printing, and the true cost of war. We explore the Israel-Palestine conflict, the foundational values of America, and the implications of immigration policies on national identity. </p><p>Dave also reveals his thoughts on potential presidential candidates, like RFK's impact on political dynamics, and offers a candid look at Trump’s achievements and faults. Adding depth to our discussion, we address the moral and ideological divides affecting the United States and dig into controversial topics, including diverse religious integration, socialism, and international politics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Join us for a thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional wisdom and pushes the boundaries of political and cultural discourse. Don’t miss this episode where we confront the uncomfortable truths and explore the profound questions shaping our world today.</p><p><br /></p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>00:00 Doubts about Biden's leadership and control.</p><p>14:37 Debate on immigration and its potential impact.</p><p>24:44 Trump as president, advisor in dismantling government.</p><p>33:02 Creating money devalues existing currency, funds wars.</p><p>51:05 NYC police officers retire early, move to Florida.</p><p>58:37 Avoid discussing divisive topic to prevent manifestation.</p><p>01:10:14 America's economy and freedom define its appeal.</p><p>01:13:57 Balancing immigration for economy and national security.</p><p>01:27:00 Concerns about immigration, government dependence, and education.</p><p>01:43:44 Islam and Christianity differ in evangelizing methods.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>SPONSORS:</strong></p><p>Go to <a href="https://shopify.com/impact" target="_blank">https://shopify.com/impact</a> right now to grow your business no matter what stage you're in</p><p>Head to <a href="https://eightsleep.com/impact/" target="_blank">https://eightsleep.com/impact/</a> and use code IMPACT to get $350 off your Pod 4 Ultra. </p><p>Visit <a href="https://betterhelp.com/impacttheory" target="_blank">https://betterhelp.com/impacttheory</a> today to get 10% off your first month.</p><p>Go to <a href="https://butcherbox.com/IMPACT" target="_blank">https://butcherbox.com/IMPACT</a> and use code IMPACT at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off</p><p>Get 5 free AG1 Travel Packs and a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D with your first purchase at <a href="https://bit.ly/AG1Impact" target="_blank">https://drinkag1.com/impact</a>.</p><p>Secure your digital life with proactive protection for your assets, identity, family, and tech – Go to <a href="https://aura.com/IMPACT" target="_blank">https://aura.com/IMPACT</a> to start your free two-week trial.</p><p>Take control of your gut health by going to <a href="https://tryviome.com/impact" target="_blank">https://tryviome.com/impact</a> and use code IMPACT to get 20% off your first 3 months and free shipping.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>FOLLOW TOM:</strong></p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/</p><p>Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu</p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu</a></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>What's up, everybody?</strong> It's Tom Bilyeu here. If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf" target="_blank"> <strong>Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook</strong></a> —<strong>a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health.</strong> Trust me, your future self will thank you.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>LISTEN AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS</strong>: <a href="http://apple.co/impacttheory" target="_blank">apple.co/impacttheory</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>
Key Insights
- Rubin argues the media could no longer suppress the truth about Biden's cognitive decline after the debate because it was too visually obvious in a split-screen format for viewers to deny.
- The Democratic Party's strategy, according to Rubin, is to scare voters about Trump rather than present positive policy achievements or a positive vision for America.
- Rubin contends that money printing functions as a covert tax on citizens' purchasing power to fund foreign wars without requiring Congressional approval or public consent.
- When foreign aid is given conditionally (requiring purchase of American weapons), it creates economic dependency and incentives for perpetual conflict rather than resolution.
- Tom argues that America's founding value system centers on Puritan work ethic and self-reliance, and that assimilation to these values matters more than racial or demographic diversity.
- The speakers claim the Democratic Party simultaneously promotes open borders while teaching citizens that America was founded on racism and slavery, creating cognitive dissonance.
- Rubin asserts that without knowing the identity, origin, and intentions of people entering a country, it ceases to function as a sovereign nation-state.
- Tom argues that politics downstream from culture means that cultural transmission of values is the primary battleground, not electoral politics itself.
- Rubin suggests that if Democratic policies continue unchecked, Florida might be justified in seceding or severely limiting federal authority over state immigration and policy matters.
- The speakers identify that shared values create social cohesion, while demographic diversity without value alignment creates conflict, contrary to progressive diversity claims.
- Rubin contends that the managerial state benefits from governing through confusion and committee rather than individual accountability, making systemic reform nearly impossible.
- Tom argues that Americans may only reset their understanding of what makes America exceptional through catastrophic tragedy, as prosperity creates complacency about fragile founding principles.
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