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Josh Howerton - "In 50 Years, China Will Have More Christians Than America" | SRS #327

Shawn Ryan Show

Pastor Josh Howerton discusses Christianity's global growth, the importance of forgiveness as a spiritual practice tied to freedom from demonic influence, and strategies for raising children in faith. He addresses why Christianity faces unique disparagement, connects Islamic prophecy to biblical warnings, and emphasizes the role of authentic faith, real community, and intentional parenting in spiritual formation.

Summary

In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Pastor Josh Howerton of Lake Church in Dallas explores multiple dimensions of Christian faith and practice. The conversation begins with Howerton's family background as a third-generation pastor and his personal journey to genuine faith during college when he realized his depravity and Christ's sufficiency. He explains why Christianity is uniquely disparaged in modern culture, arguing that the Bible predicted this opposition would occur because Satan actively wars against Christ and Christians. Howerton presents theological analysis connecting Islamic theology to biblical warnings about false prophets and antichrist figures, noting parallels between Islamic eschatology's Mahdi and New Testament descriptions of the Antichrist.

The discussion then shifts to Christianity's global trajectory. While Western Christianity has declined (from 78% Christian identification in 2007 to 62% in 2024 among US adults), Howerton notes explosive growth in Africa, Asia, and China, predicting that within 50 years China may have more Christians than America. He attributes recent resurgence in Western youth conversions to societal collapse—institutional failure, government lies, gender confusion—driving young people to seek concrete truth in Scripture.

A substantial portion addresses forgiveness as both a personal healing practice and spiritual necessity. Howerton emphasizes that unforgiveness creates a demonic stronghold and prison mentality, citing biblical connections between bitterness and satanic influence. He distinguishes between forgiveness (releasing debt, always possible through Christ's payment) and reconciliation (requiring two willing parties). He provides practical methodology: creating a debt ledger identifying specific perpetrators and losses, then either holding the debt or canceling it through faith in Christ's substitutionary sacrifice. Howerton addresses the challenge of repeated betrayals by the same person, explaining that forgiveness often requires repeated application—not failure to forgive initially, but addressing recurring emotional responses to the same wound.

On why Jesus required crucifixion rather than simply forgiving, Howerton explains God's dual nature as both just and merciful. Sin requires payment; God cannot simply overlook injustice without compromising justice. The cross satisfied both requirements—justice was served through Christ's death, enabling God to justify the ungodly.

Addressing misconceptions about megachurch pastors, Howerton shares stories of prominent pastors who cap salaries, give away 60-90% of income to nonprofits and anonymous church members, and prioritize ministry over wealth—stories that don't go viral because positive actions lack sensational value. He emphasizes the importance of elder accountability, describing how he and other pastors invite annual feedback and maintain bands of brothers who speak truth regardless of platform size.

On parenting, Howerton identifies three principles: faith must be real, not perfect; parents should pull children up into their world rather than entering the children's world of foolishness; and storytelling about God's faithfulness shapes spiritual identity. He describes pulling his 15-year-old to staff meetings rather than getting involved in age-appropriate but spiritually questionable activities. He emphasizes that despite perfect parenting, children retain free will (evidenced by Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden), so parents should give themselves grace while pouring maximum investment into their children's formation.

Final discussion addresses influence and integrity. Howerton advocates for disconnecting from audience metrics (likes, views, comments, financials) to maintain pure motivation—seeking God's direction rather than crowd approval. He explains how surrounding oneself with wise counselors and a redeemed community (church) prevents spiritual drift.

Key Insights

  • At current growth rates, Christianity in China will have more Christians than America within 50 years, with explosive growth occurring in Africa, Asia, and the global south while Western Christianity has declined from 78% to 62% identification in just 15 years
  • Unforgiveness operates as a spiritual portal for demonic activity—the Bible explicitly connects bitterness to satanic influence, making it 'earthly, unspiritual, demonic,' and creating a prison mentality where victims remain bound to their wounds
  • Jesus required crucifixion because God must be both just (requiring payment for sin) and merciful (offering salvation), so the cross satisfied both requirements simultaneously—justice was executed through Christ's death, enabling God to justify the ungodly
  • Multiple prominent megachurch pastors anonymously fund adoptions, give away 60-90% of income to nonprofits, and reverse tithe—but these stories don't go viral because planes that land safely don't make news, creating a distorted public perception of church leadership
  • The primary parenting strategy is pulling children up into the parent's world of wisdom and righteousness rather than descending into the child's world of foolishness, achieved by including them in meaningful adult activities and constantly narrating God's faithfulness

Topics

Christianity's global growth and Western declineForgiveness as spiritual and emotional practiceWhy Jesus died on the crossIslam and biblical prophecyMegachurch leadership and misconceptionsParenting and faith formationDemonic influence and unforgivenessChristian disparagement in cultureAudience influence and integrityChurch leadership structure and accountability

Transcript

[0:02] [music] Josh Howard, welcome to the show, man. >> All right. It's an honor, my friend. >> It's an honor to have you. >> Yeah, it's an honor. >> So, yeah, I've been uh you know, my chief of staff came from Dallas and uh she kind of put you on my radar and I was I was watching some of the stuff like I don't remember how you popped up, but she had made a suggestion about you coming on and I was like, "He's already on the list." [laughter] I was like, "So, >> well, dude, I think she's a former Lake Point member." >> She is. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah. So, that was very cool…

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