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Exorcist Explains What Came Before God

Shawn Ryan Show

An exorcist explains theological concepts of eternity and evil's origin, describing how God exists in eternal timelessness while angels and humans were created in different temporal modes. Evil entered existence when some angels freely chose to reject their state of grace and perfection.

Summary

The speaker presents a theological framework distinguishing three temporal states. God exists in eternity—a state with no beginning or end and no sequence of events, existing in an eternal present where God simultaneously perceives all past, present, and future events as one instance. When God created angels, He placed them in the Aevum, a state with a beginning but no end, representing eternal but finite existence. Humans were created in time, a structure regulating matter and motion that has both a beginning and an end, culminating at the final judgment. Before creating angels and humans, only God existed and only goodness existed. When angels were created, they were placed in a state of innocence, perfection, and grace. Evil did not exist as an inherent aspect of creation but rather emerged when some angels, possessing free choice, chose to reject their state of grace. This rejection by some angels represents the first introduction of evil into existence.

Key Insights

  • God exists in eternity without sequence or temporal progression, perceiving all moments—past, present, and future—simultaneously as a single eternal present.
  • Angels exist in the Aevum, a state with a beginning but no end, which is also the eternal state humans enter when they reach heaven.
  • Humans were created in time, a regulatory structure of matter and motion that has both a beginning and an end terminating at the final judgment.
  • Before God created angels and humans, only God existed and therefore only goodness existed; evil did not predate creation.
  • Evil originated when angels, created in a state of innocence, perfection, and grace, used their free choice to reject that state.

Topics

Eternity and God's natureTemporal modes: Eternity, Aevum, and TimeCreation of angels and humansFree will and moral choiceOrigin of evilState of grace and innocence

Transcript

[0:00] Was there always good and evil? >> There's what's called eternity, which has neither a beginning or an end. And there's no sequence of events. It's just the eternal now. That's what God is in. And so, God actually sees what you're doing now, what you did in the past, what you're going to do in the future. He sees whether you make it to heaven. He sees all of that at the same instance [music] cuz there's no beginning or end with him. God always existed. Then he creates the angels into what's called the Aevum, which has a beginning, but it has no end. When we die and go to heaven, we enter into the Aevum because…

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