Delta Force Operator's Opinion on Destroying the Cartels
A Delta Force operator discusses strategies for dismantling cartels, emphasizing clandestine operations over direct military action. He argues that cartels are more vulnerable than terrorists because their motivations are financial rather than ideological, and shares his experience from operations against Pablo Escobar and the Cali cartel.
Summary
The interview explores tactical approaches to counter-cartel operations from the perspective of an experienced Delta Force operator. The speaker emphasizes that any effective strategy would require clandestine operations rather than overt military action, primarily using Spanish-speaking special operations personnel who can blend into local populations. He stresses the sensitivity required in such operations, noting that collateral damage against innocent civilians involved in the drug trade out of economic necessity would undermine broader objectives and lose 'hearts and minds.' The operator draws distinctions between fighting cartels versus terrorists, arguing that terrorists are more difficult to infiltrate because they're motivated by deeply held beliefs and values, while cartel members are primarily motivated by money and can potentially be turned with financial incentives. He shares his direct experience from operations against Pablo Escobar and the Cali cartel in Colombia, clarifying that these were 'through, with, and by' operations where Colombian forces did the actual killing while U.S. forces provided intelligence support. The discussion also covers the historical context that makes Latin American populations suspicious of U.S. military presence, referencing past interventions in Grenada, Panama, and Venezuela that have created lasting wariness. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the need for cultural sensitivity and respect when operating in foreign countries, warning against the kind of triumphant imagery that could backfire politically.
Key Insights
- The speaker argues that terrorists are harder to infiltrate than cartel members because terrorists fight for deeply held beliefs and values while cartel members are motivated purely by financial transactions
- The operator reveals he was part of operations against both Pablo Escobar and the Cali cartel, clarifying that Colombians killed Pablo despite what some books claim, while DEA agents only arrived afterward for photos
- The speaker explains that using drones against cartels would face the same limitations experienced against terrorists, noting they couldn't find Bin Laden, Zarqawi, or Mullah Omar despite having Predator drones
- A Guyanese military chief of staff told the speaker that people south of the Rio Grande go to sleep wondering if night sounds might be Americans invading their country, referencing historical interventions in Grenada, Panama, and Venezuela
- The operator emphasizes that killing innocent people like fruit stand vendors who work for cartels out of economic necessity would lose hearts and minds and undermine the broader mission
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Transcript
[0:00] Terrorists are fighting for what they believe in, what they believe to be true, their values. Cartel is aing transaction for money. It's harder to infiltrate somebody whose motivations are not financial. >> I'm speaking from experience. I had the privilege being part of both going after Pablo were the guys who captured the intel that captured the Cali cartel. The Pete Blabber hot question. If tomorrow you were tasked with eradicating the cartels, but you could only bring five movie actors or [0:32] fictional characters, who's on your team and why? And in the most general terms, what's your weapon of choice? And what air support would you want overhead? >> Wow. Well, I don't, you know, Iโฆ
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