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Building an Autonomous Enterprise for Real-World Services with Netic Founder Melisa Tokmak

Melisa Tokmak, founder of Netic, discusses building AI agents to autonomously run operations for essential service businesses like HVAC, plumbing, and roofing. She explains why she chose to build a platform company rather than pursue private equity roll-ups, and emphasizes the importance of hiring for agency and long-term commitment while solving real-world problems.

Summary

Melisa Tokmak founded Netic, a company that builds AI agents to handle customer interactions and operational workflows for large essential service businesses. Netic positions itself between service companies and their customers, handling everything from initial customer contact (via voice, text, or web) to service dispatching and labor allocation. The platform uses AI to understand customer needs, assess technician capabilities and availability, consider customer lifetime value, and optimize service deployment—tasks traditionally requiring hundreds of support staff.

Tokmak explains that incumbent solutions rely heavily on human staff working in unpredictable conditions. Large service companies struggle with growth because they must continuously hire to scale, making margins difficult to maintain. Before Netic, these businesses operated with skeleton crews during off-hours, leading to missed customer opportunities during peak demand periods (heat waves, winter, etc.). Over 70% of Netic's customers are now "AI-first," meaning the customer's first interaction is with a Netic agent.

When asked why she built a platform rather than pursuing AI-enabled roll-ups (buying and optimizing multiple businesses), Tokmak cites three reasons: her personal mission to build for real-world businesses and the people in her hometown who work in these industries, her skill set as an engineer and product builder rather than an M&A specialist, and the vision that a horizontal platform can scale across many industries rather than being limited to specific acquired companies.

Tokmak emphasizes that these service industries are not technologically backward but rather pragmatic and value-focused. Closing a half-million-dollar contract can take only 14 days because decision-makers carefully validate ROI. She notes that companies were already trying to leverage satellite data, neighborhood analytics, and cross-selling opportunities across portfolios—Netic simply consolidates these efforts into one platform.

On hiring, Tokmak prioritizes agency—evidence of consistent initiative and follow-through across someone's life, not just professional accomplishments. She digs into life stories and asks what the hardest thing a candidate has ever done was, looking for patterns of sustained commitment rather than short-term wins. She warns against hiring people with a "permanent underclass mentality" who fear obsolescence in 18 months; instead, she seeks people willing to dedicate years to building something well.

Regarding competition from large AI labs like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta, Tokmak argues that while these labs excel at core model building, they lack focus on specific enterprise use cases and operational durability. Labs build products quickly and abandon them quickly, but enterprises need sustained, reliable systems. Moreover, enterprise AI success requires orchestration, harnesses, product design, and deep domain knowledge—not just superior models. She positions Netic as needing strength across three layers: models, orchestration/software, and product.

On private equity ownership of these businesses, Tokmak notes that the PE playbook has shifted from finding undervalued gems to actively creating value. Many PE firms are experimenting with AI but sometimes approach it like software, expecting week-one results. She advocates for showing tangible ROI through live deployments (Netic has generated over $600 million in customer revenue) rather than demos. The conversation with PE-owned companies increasingly focuses on net new revenue generation rather than cost-cutting alone.

Tokmak expresses excitement about AI's potential in education, where access to learning and feedback could remove geographical and socioeconomic barriers—reflecting her own experience gaining a Stanford scholarship from a small Turkish town. She also highlights the importance of shifting mainstream AI narratives from job displacement fears to positive human impact, using examples like helping people during emergencies or understanding health data.

About this episode

When your AC fails in a heatwave, you don’t want a busy signal; you need a solution. Netic founder and CEO Melisa Tokmak joins host Elad Gil to explain how Netic’s autonomous AI platform acts as an intermediary between companies and customers, deploying agents to instantly handle essential services, from emergency home repairs to hospitality to pet care. Melisa describes the complexity of these real-world workloads, which have traditionally relied on large human support teams, and how over 70% of Netic’s customers interact first with AI. She also talks about the reasoning behind building a scalable product company rather than an AI roll-up, why she believes robotics will not catch up in these industries in the near future, why she doesn’t view large frontier labs as competitive threats, and how private equity’s playbook has shifted toward measurable ROI in the AI-era. Plus, why Melisa is optimistic about the impact AI will have on education. Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to [email protected] Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @netic_AI | @melisatokmak Chapters: 00:00 – Melisa Tokmak Introduction 00:32 – What Netic Builds 03:53 – Automating Workflows for Essential Services 06:26 – Building a Service vs. AI Roll-Up 10:38 – AI for the Real World Timeline 12:56 – Can Big Labs Compete? 15:35 – Modern Founder Mindset 19:09 – Screening for Agency 22:25 – Five Year Vision 23:53 – Selling to Slow Industries 27:23 – How Private Equity Approached AI 31:14 – What Excites Melisa About the Future of AI 34:27 – Conclusion

Key Insights

  • Netic claims to have generated over $600 million in customer revenue through AI-handled interactions, using this as evidence of ROI rather than relying on demos or theoretical value propositions.
  • Tokmak argues that essential service businesses are not technologically backward but rather pragmatic and value-focused, capable of closing half-million-dollar contracts in 14 days when they see clear value.
  • The founder contends that large AI labs like OpenAI and Anthropic are not meaningful competitive threats because they lack sustained focus on specific enterprise use cases and the operational durability that customers in these industries require.
  • Tokmak describes agency as evidence of consistent, sustained initiative across someone's entire life—not just professional achievements—and uses this as the primary hiring criterion, explicitly avoiding candidates who appear focused on short-term exits or rapid skill acquisition.
  • The founder argues that PE playbooks have shifted from identifying undervalued acquisition targets to actively creating value through technology, though many PE firms still initially approach AI conversations through a cost-cutting lens rather than revenue generation.
  • Tokmak claims that solving mission-critical AI workflows in real-world services requires strength in three layers—models, orchestration/software, and product design—rather than just superior base models.
  • The founder positions the platform company model as more scalable than roll-ups because a single product serving many industries can compound value across sectors, whereas acquisition-based companies are limited to serving the specific businesses they buy.
  • Tokmak argues that a dangerous mentality exists among some workers who fear permanent obsolescence if they don't achieve specific milestones within 18 months, and she explicitly avoids hiring such candidates, preferring those committed to multi-decade projects.

Topics

AI agents for essential servicesPlatform vs. roll-up business modelsHiring for agency and long-term commitmentPrivate equity and AI adoptionReal-world business operations and AICompetition from large AI labsRevenue generation vs. cost-cutting with AIEducational access and AI

Transcript

Today on Notepriors, we're joined by Melissa Tocmack. Melissa is the founder and CEO of Netic, a company that builds AI for different real-world services like HVAC, pet care, a variety of other things like that, roofers. Prior to Netic, Melissa was a director of engineering and worked on various aspects of go-to-market for Scale.ai and also has experiences from Meta. Welcome to NoPriors, Melissa. Melissa, thanks for joining us today on NoPriors. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Maybe we can start off by talking a little bit about your business and what you're building, because I think that you're doing something really interesting in the real world and you're kind of mirroring AI in the real world. So…

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