MacroVoices #512 David Rosenberg: Will The 2025’s K become 2026’s
David Rosenberg predicts the Fed will cut rates more aggressively than expected in 2026 as inflation returns to target due to labor market softening and demand destruction. He argues the AI bubble and equity wealth effects are propping up the economy, but warns of significant risks if the stock market falters.
Summary
Economist David Rosenberg presents a contrarian view for 2026, predicting significant disinflation and more aggressive Fed rate cuts than markets expect. He argues that inflation will return to the Fed's 2% target by Q2 2026 as labor market cooling leads to demand destruction, similar to patterns seen in 2008. Rosenberg highlights that the US economy has become heavily bifurcated - a 'K-shaped' recovery where AI-related capital spending is booming at 17% annually while traditional capex is down 3%, and where high-income consumers drive spending through equity wealth effects while lower and middle-income households struggle with negative real income growth. He warns that everything depends on the stock market continuing to rise, as high-end consumer spending financed by equity gains is the primary economic driver. The discussion covers significant risks to the AI boom, including electricity supply constraints and financing challenges, with corporate debt issuance rising as internal cash flows become insufficient. Rosenberg sees the current market as the second-biggest bubble of the past century, with the Shiller CAPE ratio at 40 (a three standard deviation event). He advocates for defensive positioning with low beta exposure, focusing on utilities, healthcare, aerospace defense, and precious metals while maintaining significant cash positions. The conversation also touches on geopolitical risks, commodity markets, and currency dynamics, with Rosenberg particularly bullish on the Japanese yen and bearish on continued dollar strength.
About this episode
MacroVoices Erik Townsend & Patrick Ceresna welcome, David Rosenberg. They discuss, the U.S. economic outlook, why Rosie’s not concerned about persistent inflation, precious metals, and much more. https://bit.ly/3KJP6iw 🔻Download Big Picture Trading Chartbook 📈📉: https://bit.ly/44Ixhag ✅Sign up for a FREE 14-day trial at Big Picture Trading: https://bit.ly/4d1fcag 🔴 Subscribe to Patrick’s Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Patrick_Ceresna 🔴 Subscribe to Erik's Substack: https://eriktownsend.substack.com/
Key Insights
- Rosenberg predicts Fed will cut rates more aggressively than expected as inflation returns to 2% target by Q2 2026
- He argues the economy has become K-shaped with AI-related capex up 17% annually while traditional capex is down 3%
- High-income consumers are carrying the economy through equity wealth effects while 90% struggle with negative real income growth
- Consumer spending is up 2% while real disposable income is running negative 1% annually since April, a three percentage point gap
- Everything depends on the stock market continuing to rise as high-end consumer spending financed by equity gains drives the economy
- The Shiller CAPE ratio at 40 represents a three standard deviation bubble event, the second biggest of the past century
- AI boom faces critical constraints from power infrastructure strains and financing challenges as debt issuance replaces internal cash flows
- Labor market slack is increasing with unemployment at 4.6%, already above the Fed's forecast high for the cycle
- 40,000 layoff announcements in October-November were attributed specifically to AI, compared to zero in the same period last year
- Warren Buffett holds over 30% cash position ($380 billion), the highest in his career, signaling extreme caution
- Gold bull market since 1999 is driven by central bank diversification away from US dollars rather than inflation expectations
- Almost 40% of S&P 500 members declined in a year when the index was up 17%, showing extreme market concentration
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Transcript
This is Macro Voices, the free weekly financial podcast targeting professional finance, high net worth individuals, family offices, and other sophisticated investors. Macro Voices is all about the brightest minds in the world of finance and macroeconomics telling it like it is, bullish or bearish, no holds barred. Now, here are your hosts, Eric Townsend and Patrick Ceresna. Macro Voices episode 512 was produced on Wednesday, December 24th, 2025. I'm Eric Townsend. Happy holidays, everyone. Economist David Rosenberg returns as this week's feature interview guest. I particularly enjoyed this interview because Rosie disagrees with my view that we're in the early stages of a secular inflation, and I always seek out really smart people whose views don't matter. I don't…
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