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MacroVoices #471 Tian Yang: Tariffs Will Continue Until Morale Improves

Macro Voices1h 14m

Tian Yang discusses how Trump's policies create a challenging macro environment with sticky inflation above target, trend-to-below-trend growth, and high volatility. He argues Trump is repeating Reagan's playbook using trade policy for reshoring, while the Monroe Doctrine is returning to geopolitics with localized spheres of influence.

Summary

Tian Yang, CEO of Variant Perception, provides a comprehensive macro outlook in the context of Trump's policy changes. He argues that leading economic indicators (LEIs) remain important but must be contextualized with political trends, as survey data will be affected by tariff sentiment and policy uncertainty. Yang identifies two major strategic overlays: Trump repeating Reagan's playbook of using trade policy to encourage manufacturing reshoring, and the return of the Monroe Doctrine with America dominating the Americas while China gets Asia. The macro environment shows trend to slightly below-trend growth around 2%, but with sticky inflation above target, creating a stagflationary tilt. Yang outlines four potential recession paths: fiscal risks from DOGE spending cuts, tariffs killing the manufacturing recovery (getting 2018 Trump instead of 2017 Trump), housing weakness from higher rates, and high-for-longer rates affecting private credit. Their macro risk indicator sits at neutral around 50, suggesting mixed upside-downside risks. For equities, Yang sees modest downside risk with expectations too lofty, favoring energy over consumer discretionary and large caps over small caps. In global markets, he's taking profits on China and rotating back to India after extreme relative performance. For fixed income, fair value on 10-year yields is around 4.2%, with potential for a tradable range if yields break 4%. The dollar faces conflicting signals - models suggest slight bearishness but policy mix remains dollar bullish similar to Reagan era. On commodities, Yang has turned more cautious on gold despite the bull case, viewing it as fairly valued and preferring TIPS and industrial commodities, while noting that continued outperformance would require a 1970s-style monetary regime change.

Key Insights

  • Yang argues Trump is repeating Reagan's playbook by using trade policy to encourage manufacturing reshoring and job creation in the US
  • Yang claims the Monroe Doctrine is returning, with America dominating the Americas while China gets Asia as its sphere of influence
  • Yang identifies the current macro environment as trend to slightly below-trend growth around 2% with sticky inflation above target
  • Yang warns that tariff uncertainty is creating a stagflationary tilt where price components in surveys are rising while future expectations and new orders are declining
  • Yang argues the market is getting 2018 Trump (high volatility, tariff-focused) rather than 2017 Trump (market-friendly policies with Congress)
  • Yang's macro risk indicator shows neutral conditions around 50, suggesting mixed upside-downside risks rather than extreme bullish or bearish scenarios
  • Yang sees energy as the most attractive equity sector while consumer discretionary is the biggest underweight due to fair value models
  • Yang is taking profits on China equities and rotating to India after extreme relative performance reaching plus/minus two standard deviations
  • Yang believes fair value for 10-year Treasury yields is around 4.2%, with potential for tradable ranges if yields break 4%
  • Yang sees conflicting signals on the dollar - models suggest weakness but the policy mix of trade policy plus fiscal deficits remains dollar bullish
  • Yang has turned more cautious on gold despite acknowledging the bull case, arguing it's fairly valued and preferring TIPS and industrial commodities
  • Yang argues that for gold to continue outperforming significantly would require a 1970s-style global monetary system reform rather than just gradual changes

Topics

Trump administration policiesLeading economic indicators (LEIs)Stagflation risksTrade and tariff policyAsset allocation strategies

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