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Megan Keyes, Johns Manville

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Megan Keyes from Johns Manville discusses how commercial roofing is evolving to meet the demands of modern buildings, particularly data centers, which require mission-critical reliability, faster installation methods, and integration with rooftop solar systems. She highlights innovative products like QuickFoam adhesive that reduce installation time and labor while improving weather resilience, and emphasizes the growing opportunities for women in the roofing industry.

Summary

Christopher Ware hosts Megan Keyes, Preferred Accounts Leader for Roofing Systems at Johns Manville (a Berkshire Hathaway company), who shares insights from her 20+ year career in commercial roofing. Keyes explains how she entered the industry through recruiting and eventually transitioned into roofing leadership.

The conversation focuses on data center roofing as a critical market segment. Keyes emphasizes that data centers demand exceptionally robust roof assemblies because downtime costs exponentially and is intolerable. She notes that the industry faces supply chain challenges where traditional, repetitive roof designs cannot keep pace with demand, making alternative solutions important for maintaining project schedules. Since roofs must be installed before interior buildout can begin, delays directly impact liquidated damages and project viability.

Keyes introduces Johns Manville's QuickFoam adhesive technology, which replaces traditional fastening methods with an adhesive system that holds insulation, cover boards, and membranes together without penetrating concrete roof decks (common in data centers). QuickFoam sets quickly, maintains flexibility to absorb impacts from hail or foot traffic, and eliminates the need for ballasting while curing—significantly reducing labor hours and installation time.

The discussion shifts to severe weather resilience, particularly hail protection. Keyes advises against rigid plates on roof surfaces, recommending fleece-back membranes combined with QuickFoam, which qualify for guarantees covering larger hail impacts. She stresses the importance of designing roofs for regional weather conditions rather than applying one-size-fits-all solutions.

Regarding rooftop solar integration, Keyes emphasizes that manufacturers should be involved early in project planning. Solar installers are not roofing specialists and may inadvertently damage the roof through penetrations, fasteners, and foot traffic. Staging projects properly and protecting the roof surface during and after solar installation ensures long-term performance. Johns Manville has partnered with Unirac on Rooftop Roller technology to minimize solar system impact on roof surfaces throughout the guarantee term.

Keyes describes Johns Manville's Denver research and development facility, where the company tests products using hail cannons, wind tunnels, and simulated weather conditions to validate performance before third-party UL and FM testing. The R&D process is driven by customer feedback and industry challenges, such as addressing skilled labor shortages through factory-applied adhesives and wider membrane sheets that reduce seams and labor hours.

On diversity, Keyes notes that the establishment of National Women in Roofing reflects industry recognition of the need to encourage female participation. Six of her eight team members are women, many coming from contractor and general contractor roles. She emphasizes that opportunities exist across all levels—installation, general contracting, development management, and manufacturing—and that the industry is open and excited about female participation.

Looking ahead 5-10 years, Keyes predicts evolution in roofing materials and installation methods that maintain the 30-year performance standards roofs are built upon, rather than radical industry shifts. She cites the Pikes Peak project as a noteworthy case study due to its extreme altitude challenges.

About this episode

Roofs rarely get attention until something goes wrong. But as data centers, rooftop solar and severe weather change how buildings are designed, the roof has become a critical decision point. Megan Keyes, preferred accounts leader for roofing systems at Johns Manville, joins the Inside CRE podcast to talk about schedule risk on data center projects, designing for hail, protecting roofs during solar installation, how research and development responds to skilled labor shortages, and opportunitie...

Key Insights

  • Data center downtime costs are exponential, making roof assembly robustness and reliability non-negotiable, and any lost time creates significant financial liability that drives demand for more sophisticated roofing systems than traditional industrial buildings require.
  • The roofing industry faces a supply-demand imbalance where traditional, repetitive roof designs cannot meet data center construction demand, forcing the industry to evaluate alternative product options to prevent project schedule delays and liquidated damages.
  • QuickFoam adhesive eliminates the need for fasteners and ballasting during curing, reducing skilled labor requirements and installation time while maintaining flexibility to absorb hail impacts—a critical advantage that Keyes argues should drive broader adoption in the industry.
  • Rooftop solar installers lack roofing expertise and create roof damage risks through penetrations and foot traffic that manufacturers must anticipate, requiring early manufacturer involvement in project planning rather than treating solar installation as a separate post-roofing activity.
  • The roofing industry's future will likely focus on evolution in installation methods and materials that preserve proven 30-year performance standards rather than fundamental shifts in roofing technology, reflecting the industry's historical reliance on long-term material performance.

Topics

Data center roofing requirements and mission-critical reliabilityQuickFoam adhesive technology and labor efficiencySupply chain constraints and scheduling impactsSevere weather resilience and hail protectionRooftop solar integration and roof protectionResearch and development testing methodologyWomen in the roofing industryFuture trends in commercial roofing

Transcript

Hi, everyone. I'm Christopher Ware, today's guest host and vice president for partnerships and strategic initiatives at the Commercial Real Estate Development Association. CRE, featuring interviews with commercial real estate leaders who share industry and career insights. The Commercial Real Estate Development Association is the development industry's leading source for education, advocacy, and connections that drive your business forward. Inside CRE is brought to you by Majestic Realty. Welcome back to Inside CRE. Today, we're talking about a part of the building that honestly doesn't always get much attention until something goes wrong. The roof. But as buildings become more complex, the role of the roof is changing. Data centers demand exceptional reliability. Developers are under pressure to build faster…

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